Re: Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' Reply #15 – March 08, 2018, 04:18:09 pm Quote from: Lods – on March 08, 2018, 04:00:57 pmThere comes a point where you have to put the bar up and say "We're going to jump this!"We can't keep looking at the coming season each March and be thinking "Well maybe not this year...but next year for sure!"that's the spirit Lods!Once it clicks it will click good. There's plenty of talent with a bit more experience. Finals is certainly a real possibility. Might not make it, but must go into this season aiming for them. Quote Selected
Re: Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' Reply #16 – March 08, 2018, 04:54:21 pm Quote from: Tragic – on March 08, 2018, 04:18:09 pmthat's the spirit Lods!Once it clicks it will click good. There's plenty of talent with a bit more experience. Finals is certainly a real possibility. Might not make it, but must go into this season aiming for them.bloody oath. no pro athlete says ok, i'll settle for 18th this year, they say, I want a medal!! Quote Selected
Re: Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' Reply #17 – March 08, 2018, 06:12:02 pm Quote from: Tragic – on March 08, 2018, 04:18:09 pmthat's the spirit Lods!Once it clicks it will click good. There's plenty of talent with a bit more experience. Finals is certainly a real possibility. Might not make it, but must go into this season aiming for them.I subscribe to this theory too.Said as much for a couple years now.I still feel like our forward line is lacking, and our midfield needs more experience.It 'could' be this year, but i'm leaning towards 2019 at the earliest. Quote Selected
Re: Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' Reply #18 – March 09, 2018, 10:37:00 am Freo were 14th last year with 32 points (8 wins).The 12th team had 42 points....48 made the eight on percentage.we won 6 and lost anoher 6 by 3 goals or less.Personally, I think we'll easily be a 3 goals a game better team with the new game plan, and new and injured players coming into the fold.Heck, Paddy Dow could have kicked 4 or 5 alone against the Saints had he not panicked a bit.... Quote Selected Last Edit: March 09, 2018, 11:03:53 am by flyboy77
Re: Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' Reply #19 – March 09, 2018, 11:16:44 am When I look at the other teams I simply don't see many dominant standout teams.Sydney - will always be a good team because of their work ethic, but cracks are apeariong and their engine room doesn't purr as it did a few years back.Hawks - lost a lot of their guns and a fair bit of their soul imo. Tommy M a ball magnet, but after that O'Meara - well time will tell. Rioli appears sidelined for the time being and their stars are fading.Cats - of course adding Ablett to the Dangerfield-Selwood duo is a positive but given his hammy issues, when wil his season commence.....any smart oppodition coach will try and run him ragged and tweak the ld hammy again. And recall he had calf issues at GC too....after those three they don't look that flash at all. Taylor all but gone, Lonergand and Mackie gone, Hawkins not what he was.... Hendo the great white hope down back? Good luck with that.GWS - remain the standout team on paper imo. Lots of injuries last year but they're my flaf favourite, hands down!Adelaide - lost a flag due to complacency and the Walker-Lever issue. Will be a big threat and Bryce will be the icing, no question.But all of these teams are very beatable on the day.The next tier?Tigers, Dees, Port, BummersWill have their good days and their bad days.Reckon Bummer's midfield is very thin for real quality (and ruck).Dees - their good is very good, no question.Tigers - meh, is their style of manic intensity maintainable? Unlikely.Port - some big additions - who maY OR may not fire, the jury's out. But all flaky types.Doggies?Meh. Quote Selected
Re: Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' Reply #20 – March 09, 2018, 11:27:22 am Quote from: flyboy77 – on March 09, 2018, 11:16:44 amWhen I look at the other teams I simply don't see many dominant standout teams.Sydney - will always be a good team because of their work ethic, but cracks are apeariong and their engine room doesn't purr as it did a few years back.Hawks - lost a lot of their guns and a fair bit of their soul imo. Tommy M a ball magnet, but after that O'Meara - well time will tell. Rioli appears sidelined for the time being and their stars are fading.Cats - of course adding Ablett to the Dangerfield-Selwood duo is a positive but given his hammy issues, when wil his season commence.....any smart oppodition coach will try and run him ragged and tweak the ld hammy again. And recall he had calf issues at GC too....after those three they don't look that flash at all. Taylor all but gone, Lonergand and Mackie gone, Hawkins not what he was.... Hendo the great white hope down back? Good luck with that.GWS - remain the standout team on paper imo. Lots of injuries last year but they're my flaf favourite, hands down!Adelaide - lost a flag due to complacency and the Walker-Lever issue. Will be a big threat and Bryce will be the icing, no question.But all of these teams are very beatable on the day.The next tier?Tigers, Dees, Port, BummersWill have their good days and their bad days.Reckon Bummer's midfield is very thin for real quality (and ruck).Dees - their good is very good, no question.Tigers - meh, is their style of manic intensity maintainable? Unlikely.Port - some big additions - who maY OR may not fire, the jury's out. But all flaky types.Doggies?Meh.Your desire and ability to downplay the negatives or issues with us, yet simultaneously downplay the positives of other teams, is really quite something. Shades of Steve Jobs' Reality Distortion Field. Quote Selected
Re: Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' Reply #21 – March 09, 2018, 11:40:25 am wtf?I wasn't analysing us, just the opposition (briefly). You're as bad as Kruddler, arguably worse after that inane comment.... Quote Selected
Re: Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' Reply #22 – March 09, 2018, 12:17:03 pm I'd concentrate on generating wins vs the bottom teams...Brisbane, Freo and North all beat us last season.....Gold Coast was another when Lynch kicked a bag....Those are teams we need to make sure we win against if we are going anywhere, you add those wins to last years tally and the season looks ok, 2-3 more wins vs teams higher up and you are looking at finals. We need to make sure we dont get rolled by these bottom teams and establish a dominance over them that we can carry forward so we have a bank of guaranteed wins every season... Quote Selected
Re: Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' Reply #23 – March 09, 2018, 12:58:56 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on March 09, 2018, 12:17:03 pmI'd concentrate on generating wins vs the bottom teams...Brisbane, Freo and North all beat us last season.....Gold Coast was another when Lynch kicked a bag....Those are teams we need to make sure we win against if we are going anywhere, you add those wins to last years tally and the season looks ok, 2-3 more wins vs teams higher up and you are looking at finals. We need to make sure we dont get rolled by these bottom teams and establish a dominance over them that we can carry forward so we have a bank of guaranteed wins every season...I was thinking much the same. Dropping games we should win is hopefully a thing of the past. But with so much youth, new game plan etc., I'm not sure we're out of the woods yet. And I don't think the kids will go 100% all season, so I'm thinking the 1st half of the season will see better results than the second. Which is what we've seen recently. Sigh............We play the Suns, Pies, Dogs, Crows and Freo 2x each. Quote Selected
Re: Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' Reply #24 – March 09, 2018, 01:09:25 pm What I would love to see is an accuracy rating next to each pundit. We will quickly learn that although these are fun, they realistically know very little and forecasting results is even worse. I am not talking about us, as we will not doubt be in the bottom half of the ladder, but we really shouldn't take these predictions too seriously. Quote Selected
Re: Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' Reply #25 – March 09, 2018, 01:41:08 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on March 09, 2018, 12:17:03 pmI'd concentrate on generating wins vs the bottom teams...Brisbane, Freo and North all beat us last season.....Gold Coast was another when Lynch kicked a bag....Those are teams we need to make sure we win against if we are going anywhere, you add those wins to last years tally and the season looks ok, 2-3 more wins vs teams higher up and you are looking at finals. We need to make sure we dont get rolled by these bottom teams and establish a dominance over them that we can carry forward so we have a bank of guaranteed wins every season...Absolutely, have to win the 'easy' games.... Quote Selected
Re: Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' Reply #26 – March 09, 2018, 01:54:24 pm Bold Blue - should win - 8 winsitalics maroon - likely loss. 6 gamesRed - 50/50 --------- 8 gamesRound 1 Thursday, March 22RICH v CARL RichmondCarlton MCG7:25PMTickets AFL TravelPreviewRound 2 Saturday, March 31CARL v GCFCCarlton vGold Coast Suns ES1:45PMTickets AFL TravelPreviewRound 3 Friday, April 06CARL v COLLCarlton vCollingwood MCG7:50PMTickets AFL TravelPreviewRound 4 Saturday, April 14NMFC v CARLNorth Melbourne vCarlton BA7:25PMTickets AFL TravelPreviewRound 5 Saturday, April 21CARL v WCECarlton vWest Coast Eagles MCG4:35PMAFL TravelPreviewRound 6 Friday, April 27WB v CARLWestern Bulldogs vCarlton ES7:50PMTickets AFL TravelPreviewRound 7 Saturday, May 05ADEL v CARLAdelaide Crows vCarlton AO7:10PMTickets AFL TravelPreviewRound 8 Saturday, May 12CARL v ESSCarlton vEssendon MCG2:10PMTickets AFL TravelPreviewRound 9 Sunday, May 20CARL v MELBCarlton vMelbourne MCG1:10PMTickets AFL TravelPreviewRound 10 Saturday, May 26GEEL v CARLGeelong Cats vCarlton GS7:25PMTickets AFL TravelPreviewRound 11 Friday, June 01SYD v CARLSydney Swans vCarlton SCG7:50PMTickets AFL TravelPreviewRound 12 BYERound 13 Saturday, June 16CARL v FRECarlton vFremantle ES1:45PMTickets AFL TravelPreviewRound 14 Sunday, June 24COLL v CARLCollingwood vCarlton MCG3:20PMTickets AFL TravelPreviewRound 15 Saturday, June 30CARL v PORTCarlton vPort Adelaide MCG1:45PMTickets AFL TravelPreviewRound 16 Saturday, July 07BL v CARLBrisbane Lions vCarlton G1:45PMTickets AFL TravelPreviewRound 17 Friday, July 13STK v CARLSt Kilda vCarlton ES7:50PMTickets AFL TravelPreviewRound 18 Sunday, July 22CARL v HAWCarlton vHawthorn ES1:10PMTickets AFL TravelPreviewRound 19 Saturday, July 28GCFC v CARLGold Coast Suns vCarlton MS7:25PMTickets AFL TravelPreviewRound 20 Sunday, August 05CARL v GWSCarlton vGWS Giants ES1:10PMTickets AFL TravelPreviewRound 21 Sunday, August 12FRE v CARLFremantle vCarlton OS2:40PMTickets AFL TravelPreviewRound 22 Sunday, August 19CARL v WBCarlton vWestern Bulldogs ES1:10PMTickets AFL TravelPreviewRound 23 Friday, August 24CARL v ADELCarlton vAdelaide Crows ES12:00AMPreview Quote Selected Last Edit: March 09, 2018, 05:16:17 pm by flyboy77
Re: Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' Reply #27 – March 09, 2018, 01:58:21 pm I don't think we are 50/50 with GWS, I doubt anyone will be 50/50 with GWS this season! Quote Selected
Re: Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' Reply #28 – March 09, 2018, 02:08:10 pm Quote from: LP – on March 09, 2018, 01:58:21 pmI don't think we are 50/50 with GWS, I doubt anyone will be 50/50 with GWS this season! In Melbourne, maybe nt 50/50 but not a guaranteed loss. Quote Selected
Re: Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' Reply #29 – March 09, 2018, 04:52:08 pm I think the Swans have big problems, their list looks very fragile and to cover the loss of a few talls they have to rob Peter to save Paul elsewhere on the field.They could struggle a bit for 2018, if they don't it's probably one you can credit the coach for! He'll have to earn his money now! Quote Selected