2018 Jim Park Medal Analysis

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Re: 2018 Jim Park Medal Analysis

Reply #45 – August 06, 2018, 07:22:42 pm

Rd 19: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Isn't it nice to have win again!

18 people voted this week, a considerable improvement over recent weeks and recent poor performances.
The rating at 9.02 represented a B. A big step up from the F's of recent weeks and the best of the year. (The Essendon win gained a score of 8.98.)
14 different players managed a mention this week.

The Votes:
Cripps, Patrick 481
Murphy, Marc 281
Petrevski - Seton, Sam 185
Weitering, Jacob 15
Curnow, Edward 55
Dow, Patrick 45
Lobbe, Matthew 45
Marchbank, Caleb 40
Lang, Darcy 35
Curnow, Charles 15
Simpson, Kade 10
Lamb, Jed 5
Rowe, Sam 5
Byrne, Ciaran 5

Paddy Cripps had another enormous week with 481 votes!

Progressive Voting:
4595 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
1987 - Curnow, Edward (0)
1537 - Simpson, Kade (0)
1500 - Curnow, Charles (0)
1221 - Thomas, Dale (0)
1085 - Fisher, Zac (0)
859 - Jones, Liam (0)
760 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
750 - Murphy, Marc (0)
470 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
392 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
345 - Lamb, Jed (0)
322 - Kerridge, Sam (0)
291 - Casboult, Levi (0)
289 - Wright, Matthew (0)
266 - Rowe, Sam (0)
245 - Dow, Patrick (0)
214 - Marchbank, Caleb (0)
203 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
195 - Kennedy, Matthew (0)
180 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
145 - Graham, Nick (0)
140 - Phillips, Andrew (0)
81 - O'Brien, Lochie (0)
72 - Lobbe, Matthew (0)
71 - Cuningham, David (0)
60 - McKay, Harrison (0)
60 - Garlett, Jarrod (0)
37 - Mullett, Aaron (0)
36 - Lang, Darcy (0)
8 - Polson, Cameron (0)
6 - Byrne, Ciaran (0)
6 - Pickett, Jarrod (0)

Re: 2018 Jim Park Medal Analysis

Reply #46 – August 13, 2018, 08:34:24 pm

Rd 20: Carlton vs GWS
What a disaster.

And it scared off the voters. There were 13 this week, compared to 17 for the same round last year and 18 last week.
The rating was exactly 5.00, the lowest our system accepts: F.

And we deserved it the way we played.
That said, 15 players managed a mention. In other times I would be happy with that. This week it indicates that few players stood out.

Votes:
McKay, Harrison 185
Cripps, Patrick 175
Thomas, Dale 152
Petrevski - Seton, Sam 58
Murphy, Marc 56
Dow, Patrick 27
Marchbank, Caleb 27
Lobbe, Matthew 15
Rowe, Sam 13
Simpson, Kade 12
Polson, Cameron 8
Byrne, Ciaran 8
Curnow, Edward 6
Curnow, Charles 6
Lamb, Jed 4

The top score of 185 was pretty low, due to the rating. But when we play poorly, the resulting votes show it.
It is Harry McKay's 1st BOG.
Patrick Cripps has 10 BOG's this year and 3 2nds! What a domination!
Daisy Thomas getting votes also puts him firmly in the top 5, with the likelihood that he will stay there.

Progressives:
4770 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
1992 - Curnow, Edward (0)
1549 - Simpson, Kade (0)
1505 - Curnow, Charles (0)
1373 - Thomas, Dale (0)
1085 - Fisher, Zac (0)
859 - Jones, Liam (0)
805 - Murphy, Marc (0)
760 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
527 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
392 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
349 - Lamb, Jed (0)
322 - Kerridge, Sam (0)
291 - Casboult, Levi (0)
289 - Wright, Matthew (0)
280 - Rowe, Sam (0)
272 - Dow, Patrick (0)
245 - McKay, Harrison (0)
241 - Marchbank, Caleb (0)
203 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
195 - Kennedy, Matthew (0)
180 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
145 - Graham, Nick (0)
140 - Phillips, Andrew (0)
88 - Lobbe, Matthew (0)
81 - O'Brien, Lochie (0)
71 - Cuningham, David (0)
60 - Garlett, Jarrod (0)
37 - Mullett, Aaron (0)
36 - Lang, Darcy (0)
15 - Polson, Cameron (0)
13 - Byrne, Ciaran (0)
6 - Pickett, Jarrod (0)

This one has been won a LONG way from home. Cripps is over double the score of his nearest rival.
Daisy cannot be displaced from the top 5 at this point, a remarkable improvement.
The Curnow brothers have stagnated of late.

Re: 2018 Jim Park Medal Analysis

Reply #47 – August 14, 2018, 12:00:00 pm

@Crash

That demonstrates dramatically how we are so dependent on such a few players and how we fall away badly in performance as we go down the list!

Re: 2018 Jim Park Medal Analysis

Reply #48 – August 14, 2018, 01:51:22 pm

Absolutely. This year has been the greatest imbalance I can remember.

What is worse is that our 5th ranked player, Daisy Thomas, is clearly 5th, yet has had some games this year bad enough to call his retirement. And he has missed a game or two. He is also one of our elder statesmen.

Simmo is currently 3rd, and he has also been much less effective than last year. He is also the oldest player on our list.

The rest of the top 5 consists of the Curnow brothers and Patrick Cripps.

Our 11th ranked player is Weitering, who was dropped earlier this year because his form was terrible, and hasn't been that good since his return.

These scores are a really damning statistic about our performance.

Re: 2018 Jim Park Medal Analysis

Reply #49 – August 17, 2018, 09:53:57 pm

Rd 21: Carlton vs Fremantle
We were good for a while, but we were smashed in the 3rd quarter.

With the game not on free to air TV there were not many voters. Only 12 people bothered. It was actually 3 more than for the same round last year (where we were also not on TV).
The rating this week was 6.39, which represents an E+. Fair enough, I guess. At least it was better than the straight F's.
11 different players managed a mention.

Votes:
Cripps, Patrick 277
Thomas, Dale 256
Lobbe, Matthew 101
McKay, Harrison 91
Petrevski - Seton, Sam 69
Rowe, Sam 64
Curnow, Charles 32
Murphy, Marc 21
Dow, Patrick 21
Simpson, Kade 16
Byrne, Ciaran 11

This is Lobbe's highest rating (3rd). Cripps is there almost every week. Daisy has 3 1st places, a 2nd and 2 3rds.

Progressive Voting totals:
5047 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
1992 - Curnow, Edward (0)
1629 - Thomas, Dale (0)
1565 - Simpson, Kade (0)
1537 - Curnow, Charles (0)
1085 - Fisher, Zac (0)
859 - Jones, Liam (0)
827 - Murphy, Marc (0)
760 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
597 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
392 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
349 - Lamb, Jed (0)
344 - Rowe, Sam (0)
335 - McKay, Harrison (0)
322 - Kerridge, Sam (0)
293 - Dow, Patrick (0)
291 - Casboult, Levi (0)
289 - Wright, Matthew (0)
241 - Marchbank, Caleb (0)
203 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
195 - Kennedy, Matthew (0)
189 - Lobbe, Matthew (0)
180 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
145 - Graham, Nick (0)
140 - Phillips, Andrew (0)
81 - O'Brien, Lochie (0)
71 - Cuningham, David (0)
60 - Garlett, Jarrod (0)
37 - Mullett, Aaron (0)
36 - Lang, Darcy (0)
24 - Byrne, Ciaran (0)
15 - Polson, Cameron (0)
6 - Pickett, Jarrod (0)

Patrick Cripps continues to dominate, being 3000 (!!) votes in front of 2nd place getter, Ed Curnow. Daisy has jumped up into 3rd spot!

Re: 2018 Jim Park Medal Analysis

Reply #50 – August 28, 2018, 09:13:11 pm

The Penultimate Round and another loss, but at least we gave the Dogs a fight.

Rd 22: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Etihad

This week there were 15 voters, up from 13 this time last year and 12 last week. More people could see the game, even though not many bothered to turn up on the night. Not really surprising, considering our form and injuries.
The rating was much better this week: 7.16, which represents something between a D and a D+. Just shows how bad we are going when a D+ appears to be a decent outcome.

14 players managed to get a mention this week.

Votes:
Simpson, Kade 339
Cripps, Patrick 212
Marchbank, Caleb 179
Byrne, Ciaran 79
Weitering, Jacob 69
Thomas, Dale 60
O'Brien, Lochie 43
Curnow, Edward 38
McKay, Harrison 21
Lamb, Jed 19
Curnow, Charles 5
Rowe, Sam 5
Lobbe, Matthew 2
de Koning, Tom 2

I was the only one to give de Koning a mention.

Progressive Voting:
5259 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
2030 - Curnow, Edward (0)
1903 - Simpson, Kade (0)
1689 - Thomas, Dale (0)
1542 - Curnow, Charles (0)
1085 - Fisher, Zac (0)
859 - Jones, Liam (0)
827 - Murphy, Marc (0)
760 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
597 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (0)
461 - Weitering, Jacob (0)
420 - Marchbank, Caleb (0)
368 - Lamb, Jed (0)
357 - McKay, Harrison (0)
348 - Rowe, Sam (0)
322 - Kerridge, Sam (0)
293 - Dow, Patrick (0)
291 - Casboult, Levi (0)
289 - Wright, Matthew (0)
203 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
195 - Kennedy, Matthew (0)
191 - Lobbe, Matthew (0)
180 - Silvagni, Jack (0)
145 - Graham, Nick (0)
140 - Phillips, Andrew (0)
124 - O'Brien, Lochie (0)
103 - Byrne, Ciaran (0)
71 - Cuningham, David (0)
60 - Garlett, Jarrod (0)
37 - Mullett, Aaron (0)
36 - Lang, Darcy (0)
15 - Polson, Cameron (0)
6 - Pickett, Jarrod (0)
3 - de Koning, Tom (0)

Cripps is almost a season in front of 2nd place, but it is tight for second and that will be determined next week. I reckon Simmo might get 2nd, as Ed' form of late has not been as good.

Re: 2018 Jim Park Medal Analysis

Reply #51 – September 03, 2018, 10:15:36 am

And the winner is .....

Carlton vs Adelaide: Rd 23: What a debacle! A few good things, but so many poor ones. Sort of describes the season.

Not many voters interested this week: 12 people bothered and nobody was really happy. Still, the number was better than this game last year, where we had just 11.
The rating was another very poor one: 5.28, which doesn't reach an F+.

No big surprise when you lose by 100 points, but ...
15 players rated a mention, although few did enough to be really noticeable.

Votes:
Cripps, Patrick 312
McKay, Harrison 112
Polson, Cameron 112
Weitering, Jacob 79
Lobbe, Matthew 70
Byrne, Ciaran 47
Thomas, Dale 35
Silvagni, Jack 21
Lamb, Jed 14
Murphy, Marc 9
Marchbank, Caleb 9
O'Brien, Lochie 7
Simpson, Kade 5
Petrevski - Seton, Sam 5
Kerridge, Sam 2

Weitering would have scored much better if he hadn't had to go off injured. Polson played what was arguably his best game, ... and Patrick Cripps was Patrick Cripps!

As for the overall voting:
5571 - Cripps, Patrick (313)
2030 - Curnow, Edward (0)
1908 - Simpson, Kade (5)
1723 - Thomas, Dale (35)
1542 - Curnow, Charles (0)
1085 - Fisher, Zac (0)
859 - Jones, Liam (0)
836 - Murphy, Marc (10)
760 - Kreuzer, Matthew (0)
601 - Petrevski - Seton, Sam (5)
540 - Weitering, Jacob (80)
468 - McKay, Harrison (112)
429 - Marchbank, Caleb (10)
382 - Lamb, Jed (14)
348 - Rowe, Sam (0)
325 - Kerridge, Sam (3)
293 - Dow, Patrick (0)
291 - Casboult, Levi (0)
289 - Wright, Matthew (0)
261 - Lobbe, Matthew (70)
203 - Plowman, Lachlan (0)
201 - Silvagni, Jack (21)
195 - Kennedy, Matthew (0)
149 - Byrne, Ciaran (47)
145 - Graham, Nick (0)
140 - Phillips, Andrew (0)
131 - O'Brien, Lochie (7)
127 - Polson, Cameron (112)
71 - Cuningham, David (0)
60 - Garlett, Jarrod (0)
37 - Mullett, Aaron (0)
36 - Lang, Darcy (0)
6 - Pickett, Jarrod (0)
3 - de Koning, Tom (0)

Congratulations to Patrick Cripps! 2018 Jim Park Medalist!

Let'c consider the top 5 for a moment:
5571 - Cripps, Patrick
2030 - Curnow, Edward
1908 - Simpson, Kade
1723 - Thomas, Dale
1542 - Curnow, Charles

[1] Cripps was 3541 votes in front of 2nd place getter, Ed Curnow. 3541 votes! If he had got 3541 votes all up he would still have won by some margin, but to WIN by that margin! Not even Judd managed that.
[2] Ed Curnow started the season well, but fell away near the end. Still 2030 votes is not unreasonable.
[3] Charlie moved up into the top 5, but also fell away late in the season.
[4] Our oldest 2 players managed to get into the top 5, Daisy for the first time. That is impressive.

Re: 2018 Jim Park Medal Analysis

Reply #52 – September 03, 2018, 10:29:36 am

Great result from Cripps.

He could have won by even more if that spud Murphy hadn't played 14 games and finished top 10, apologists just keep voting for him apparently!

(Yes I'm being sarcastic!

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Re: 2018 Jim Park Medal Analysis

Reply #53 – September 03, 2018, 10:30:26 am

It's a shame the season ended. Polson was coming home like a train but he just ran out of games

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Well done to Cripps

Re: 2018 Jim Park Medal Analysis

Reply #54 – September 03, 2018, 10:33:02 am

Quote from: LP – on September 03, 2018, 10:29:36 am

Great result from Cripps.

He could have won by even more if that spud Murphy hadn't played 14 games and finished top 10, apologists just keep voting for him apparently!
(Yes I'm being sarcastic! )

Sarcasm is not needed, it's the truth. He might have played 2 or 3 good games this year.

Re: 2018 Jim Park Medal Analysis

Reply #55 – September 03, 2018, 10:51:08 am

Quote from: madbluboy – on September 03, 2018, 10:33:02 am

Sarcasm is not needed, it's the truth. He might have played 2 or 3 good games this year.

It's an indictment on the composition and condition of our list that Murphy could finish top 10 this year.... a very bad indictment!

Re: 2018 Jim Park Medal Analysis

Reply #56 – September 03, 2018, 10:57:15 am

Thanks for your efforts Crash

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It certainly was a one-sided result and I doubt whether we’ve ever had a player perform at a level so far above everyone else - even with the games others lost through injury.

Now for the Brownlow

Re: 2018 Jim Park Medal Analysis

Reply #57 – September 03, 2018, 07:04:01 pm

Fly, Murphy was OK at times but post the GC games he stunk. Not surprised he polled but really an indictment on the list that so many senior players made the top ten, yet the greater majority played poorly overall.

Ed was another whose early season was OK, but as the year progressed his form deteriorated badly. His last month was putrid.

Re: 2018 Jim Park Medal Analysis

Reply #58 – September 04, 2018, 07:05:30 pm

Sums up the year nicely. If you've only got one bloke playing consistently good football week in week out and everybody else is miles behind, the you have a recipe for only winning 2 games and finishing with a percentage of around 60