Re: Goaltracker 2018 Reply #105 – June 27, 2018, 12:46:22 pm Quote from: Thryleon – on June 27, 2018, 12:31:05 pmThats a false positive (the bold one).He's top 4 for goal kicking because we are so poor at kicking goals as a team and it can be argued that Mckay wouldnt be in anyone elses top 4 goal kickers at another club.If he was sitting top 4 for goals kicked, and the top two had kicked 100 between them, then this might be a positive.On the other side he is on 2 goals per game. I'll certainly take that. Quote Selected
Re: Goaltracker 2018 Reply #106 – June 27, 2018, 12:50:30 pm I reckon our blokes must be tired as I think they travelled to Russia to play in the World Cup too. I say that as the Socceroos are like Carlton. Can take it up to the best in general play but can't kicked any bloody goals when on top. Quote Selected
Re: Goaltracker 2018 Reply #107 – June 27, 2018, 12:58:38 pm Quote from: DJC – on June 27, 2018, 09:12:59 amOne of our top four goalkickers can’t get a game!Have many of his goals come from KPP marking or bullocking type play?Did McKay's goals come at the expense of some other small forward? Quote Selected
Re: Goaltracker 2018 Reply #108 – June 27, 2018, 01:05:00 pm Quote from: LP – on June 27, 2018, 12:58:38 pmHave many of his goals come from KPP marking or bullocking type play?Did McKay's goals come at the expense of some other small forward?Probably more than you think. Ok contested marking in the VFL.Don't care right now anyway, as long as he is kicking them. Rest will come. Quote Selected
Re: Goaltracker 2018 Reply #109 – June 27, 2018, 01:20:41 pm Quote from: laj – on June 27, 2018, 12:46:22 pmOn the other side he is on 2 goals per game. I'll certainly take that.Me too, but it tells a story. Quote Selected
Re: Goaltracker 2018 Reply #110 – June 27, 2018, 02:02:13 pm Quote from: Thryleon – on June 27, 2018, 12:31:05 pmThats a false positive (the bold one).He's top 4 for goal kicking because we are so poor at kicking goals as a team and it can be argued that Mckay wouldnt be in anyone elses top 4 goal kickers at another club.If he was sitting top 4 for goals kicked, and the top two had kicked 100 between them, then this might be a positive.That’s true Thry but the positive is that averaging two goals a game isn’t enough to secure a spot in the 22 unless it’s combined with consistency of effort and meeting team standards. Quote Selected
Re: Goaltracker 2018 Reply #111 – June 27, 2018, 08:29:09 pm Harry didn't meet the team standard's because his were too high? Quote Selected
Re: Goaltracker 2018 Reply #112 – June 27, 2018, 08:29:31 pm Quote from: madbluboy – on June 27, 2018, 08:29:09 pmHarry didn't meet the team standards because his were too high? Quote Selected
Re: Goaltracker 2018 Reply #113 – June 27, 2018, 09:53:39 pm Quote from: madbluboy – on June 27, 2018, 08:29:31 pm Quote Selected
Re: Goaltracker 2018 Reply #114 – July 04, 2018, 09:23:05 am After 14 games2016 Goals 148 Behinds 132-(For 1020 Against 1259)Percentage 81.0 %2017(Target 224-224-1568)Goals 149 Behinds 123-( For 1017 Against 1239 )Percentage 82.1 %2018 (2017 Target 232 Goals- 202 behinds-1594)Goals-127 Behinds - 125 (For- 887 , Against- 1395)Percentage 63.6 % Goalkickers (2017 Target Casboult 34)2017Casboult 22 Wright 18Gibbs 13Silvagni 122018Curnow 23M Wright 14McKay 12Casboult 12Up another point in percentage.Curnow’s edged ahead of Casboult’s goal tally at the same stage last year. Quote Selected
Re: Goaltracker 2018 Reply #115 – July 04, 2018, 09:33:16 am Lods, I'm not sure how you collect the stats, but if available it would be interesting to see the goal contribution from the midfielder compared to previous years. I'm pegging it's dropped substantially and would be a major reason for the 2018 goal deficit. Quote Selected
Re: Goaltracker 2018 Reply #116 – July 04, 2018, 09:53:29 am The bleating seems to have died down a little, but it was that the game isn't as attractive and generally lower scoring this year.We are 22 goals down after 14 games - that is 1.5 goals a game - probably not significant. Our defence is also 11 points a game worse - making our overall margin about 20 points worse than last year per game.We know the defensive issues with injuries. Watching our games, it also feels as if it is much harder to score a goal. It actually surprises me that we are that close with points scored against last year. Quote Selected
Re: Goaltracker 2018 Reply #117 – July 04, 2018, 09:56:38 am Quote from: LP – on July 04, 2018, 09:33:16 amLods, I'm not sure how you collect the stats, but if available it would be interesting to see the goal contribution from the midfielder compared to previous years. I'm pegging it's dropped substantially and would be a major reason for the 2018 goal deficit.I get them from footywire which only list the top 4-5 for each club.I'm not sure our midfield have dropped off as individuals (Cripps already has as many goals as he kicked all last year).... but where we have lost a lot of goals is the area of ....2017 (2018)....even with some games to go they wont hit those totalsCasboult 34 (12)Silvagni 19 (4)Gibbs 17 (0 for us)Kreuzer 12 (5)Murphy 11 (3)Gibbs gone and the other 4 all injured for extended periods ....or playing VFL for a few games has severely affected our already poor goal stocks Quote Selected Last Edit: July 04, 2018, 10:14:24 am by Lods
Re: Goaltracker 2018 Reply #118 – July 04, 2018, 10:43:17 am I appreciate Cripps has his 0.5 goal a game, but it's fairly stark though, Gibbs, Kreuzer and Murphy mean our midfield is down 32 goals on 2018.Kreuzer has been out yet is on his average, Casboult has been out and rucking but is on his average.Diasy is down but he's not spent as much time forward, the rest are about average with a couple of part-timers down in the decimal places.The bulk of the deficit is mostly down to a loss of one good midfielder, Bryce Gibbs! So the naysayers better take note, yet many still claim good riddance! Quote Selected
Re: Goaltracker 2018 Reply #119 – July 10, 2018, 03:50:01 pm After 15 games2016 Goals 155 Behinds 137-(For-1067 Against 1366)Percentage 78.1%2017(Target 224-224-1568)Goals 161 Behinds 133-(For-1099 Against 1329 )Percentage 82.7 %2018 (2017 Target 232 Goals- 202 behinds-1594)Goals-134 Behinds - 138 (For- 942 , Against- 1515)Percentage 62.2 % Goalkickers (2017 Target Casboult 34)2017Casboult 23 Wright 20Silvagni 15Gibbs 132018Curnow 26M Wright 14McKay 12Casboult 12...and the minimal gains in percentage over the last few weeks disappear in a flash. The other one that's starting to bolt away is the "points against" Quote Selected Last Edit: July 10, 2018, 07:53:25 pm by Lods