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Casboult as we all know is year by year proposition and I very much doubt that he has any real role to play in the coaching of young players, in the same way as you vehemently pointed out some time ago would Lobbe. The youngsters are going currently going through a development process mapped out by the club, playing mainly in the VFL so far, and both Kerr and Harry have not even played alongside Levi that much. Do you think that BB says to them "I'm taking  you both to watch the seniors today and I want you both to watch Levi closely, be in wonder and learn". 

PS. Beware of trying to interpret what people may or may not be implying - tricky process that.

if I was guessing I think the club will try and recruit a more readymade KP Forward for 2019 to help take the heat off the kids and also win some games as the pressure builds on Bolton and SOS.

I think more Tom McDonald than Tom Lynch, we would have to sell the farm for Lynch - ask yourself; what do we actually need? We think McKay will make it but needs time, then we really need some support and a filler who can be effective elsewhere longer term. Patton from GWS gets mentioned alot, I think he can only really play one position, similarly Boyd from the Dogs. There are Tom McDonald types out there on club lists or in the state leagues that could be effective.

What is the measure of effective? Able to contribute 1 - 2 goals per game? Able to pinch hit in the ruck? Perhaps able to swing back in defence?

B: Byrne, Jones, O'Shea
Hb: Cuningham, Marchbank, Simpson
C: Fisher, Cripps, E.Curnow
Hf: Plowman, C.Curnow, Murphy
F: Wright, Casboult, Garlett
Foll: Kreuzer, Kennedy
Rov: Petrevski-Seton
I/c: Dow, Thomas, Polson, Mullett

I don't agree, all senior players are role models, and young players learn playing along side them you cannot deny that!

I have no doubt Lobbe is setting new standards on the training track, which was the context of the earlier discussion, it's what he is globally known for in AFL circles.

If Kreuzer and Kennedy don't get up?

Different emphasis for different circumstances? Sorry, your argument loses credibility. I will waste no further time discussing it with you.

What is the measure of effective? Able to contribute 1 - 2 goals per game? Able to pinch hit in the ruck? Perhaps able to swing back in defence?

All senior players are role models, there is no different emphasis for different circumstances or situations, I do not know where you think you've read that.

I'm not sure where you have made a connect between Lobbe as ruckmen being a role model to our young KPFs. If you can find the post that references that I'm happy to stand corrected, but I think you'll find any discussions regarding Lobbe would have been in reference to rucks and training.

All senior players have to bring something to the table to contribute to the development of kids, just as the coaches and training staff do, if they don't they are a waste of space and have no place in the club!

There is this KPF/Ruck Merry-go-Round that Casboult's boosters live on, maybe that is where you are getting confused! You know those arguments well, one says he is a KPF when he has a bad ruck day, the alternative is that he's a useful 2nd Ruck when he spuds it up inside F50!

My argument is pretty simple, he is not much value at either!

So what half intelligent young AFL footballer would consider him a role model then??

I'm sure they are guided by the coaching staff as to the players who they need to study and learn from?  This would not be left purely to chance?

By your measure, Levi would be hardly one those they are lining up to learn from then? 

After Saturdays debacle, nowhere have i seen any blame set upon our match committee. The game was lost at the selection table way  before the the ball was even bounced so blaming players is a little unfair. The balance of the team was poor and we never stood a chance. On top of this we hit an in form GC which admittedly after watching them live, they will worry many teams this year. Plenty of hard bodies too against slighter frames. Great warm weather was on their side too so it was a perfect storm for us as a team.
We just weren't ready on Saturday and feel we would have learnt plenty both on and off field.
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