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If the kids pick up bad habits from an 8 or 10 year player, is it the kids fault?

Why did we get rid of Mitch Robinson, his football is clearly good enough, different emphasis for different circumstances?

Are you implying none of our coaches would point to Casboult as a role model, is this an argument for me or against me?

Then way is he there Cookie2?

I wouldn't be rushing to drop Lamb.
He wasn't too bad last week, and ditto the week before. Others more worthy of demotion than he is.
He is one of the only players in the side who offers genuine aggression as well. We need that, lest we become punching bags.

After Saturdays debacle, nowhere have i seen any blame set upon our match committee. The game was lost at the selection table way  before the the ball was even bounced so blaming players is a little unfair. The balance of the team was poor and we never stood a chance. On top of this we hit an in form GC which admittedly after watching them live, they will worry many teams this year. Plenty of hard bodies too against slighter frames. Great warm weather was on their side too so it was a perfect storm for us as a team.
We just weren't ready on Saturday and feel we would have learnt plenty both on and off field.
Your thoughts

Can only partially agree, the game in my opinion was lost when Gold Coast brought physical intensity to the contest. Carlton did not, and generally do not, respond to physical sides. We have routinely been beaten up for nearly two decades. That is a stone cold fact. If you want to beat the Blues you out pressure them, and put intensive pressure over the ball. Most times, Carlton will wilt like flowers in the Sun.

WTF, Mitch's back now! Mate, I leave you with the last words - it is very important to you to have that honour obviously, and this conversation has clearly run its course.

Can only partially agree, the game in my opinion was lost when Gold Coast brought physical intensity to the contest. Carlton did not, and generally do not, respond to physical sides. We have routinely been beaten up for nearly two decades. That is a stone cold fact. If you want to beat the Blues you out pressure them, and put intensive pressure over the ball. Most times, Carlton will wilt like flowers in the Sun.

Players who will stick it back to the opposition are ACOS, Rowe, Williamson and Big Harry and I think we look a better team when we have some more aggression on the field......

Do you think starting 2018 that Casboult is a new untested prospect?

The club has had a long time to address the Casboult / KPF issue, it's hasn't just happened since BB and SOS arrived.

In regard to Kerr and McKay, I've written the exact opposite of what you conclude, I have no idea where the other half of the conversation in your head is coming from.

Really? We went Weitering (who was always supposed to go forward at some point), Curnow, McKay and Silvagni in 1 draft. That's the foundation of the list build.

We've since added DeKonig and Kerr and there was the huge investment in Marchbank who is effectively a draft pick - who was also supposed to be capable of playing forward.

The bulk of these guys are struggling - but they are still young and have time. I'm not panicking just yet... though I'm getting nervous after Saturday. That performance was so bad that it is hard to be anything other than ultra-negative about everything Carlton at the minute.

Last words, I posed four questions giving you the chance to respond!

It seems to me you are the one trying to kill off the questions with some misdirection!

Contention: Casboult is a leader.

Explanation: He has been in the AFL system for a long time, is an older player in AFL terms.

Comparison: Jake Stringer, Kurt Tippett, Jack Watts

Conclusion: Bollocks. Plenty of senior players are not role models. Most get moved on, but nobody wanted Casboult.

Every argument based on the above contention is therefor deemed null and void as initial contention is incorrect.

Here end the lesson.

So a Role model is a Leader?

btw., Who used the "Leader" word in the Casboult context, if I did feel free to link to it!

Any argument based on the above contention is therefor deemed null and void as initial contention that a role model is a leader is incorrect. A role model may be a leader, but they are not dependent terms even if they had been mutually stated. Here endeth the lesson.

PS; I think what you have offered is technically called an Ambiguity of Cross Reference.

role model, leader
potayto, potahto

Really?

So I take it you didn't find the "Leader" word anywhere in the recent threads, but you'll claim you didn't bother looking!