Re: 2018 Rd 5: Pre-Game Pessimism: Carlton vs West Coast Reply #60 – April 19, 2018, 07:00:06 pm Feel sorry for Phillips, been injured forever, finally gets a crack and has to come up against NicNat in career best form Quote Selected
Re: 2018 Rd 5: Pre-Game Pessimism: Carlton vs West Coast Reply #61 – April 19, 2018, 07:01:13 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on April 19, 2018, 06:54:55 pmSeems a bit of a whipping boy is Cuningham, thought he went ok vs Nth and was better than most, Mullet isnt contributing muchand looks out of his depth having to defend, rather than just accumulate easy receives...Kruezer out is going to hurt us given NitWits form....Weitering injured or dropped? or is too hard to drop a No 1 pick...I worry about weitering. I fear we may break him. A couple of weeks rest and a plan to bring him back as an intercept defender will do him a lot of good. I hate the Cunningham omission Quote Selected
Re: 2018 Rd 5: Pre-Game Pessimism: Carlton vs West Coast Reply #62 – April 19, 2018, 07:08:01 pm Quote from: slikguy – on April 19, 2018, 07:01:13 pmI worry about weitering. I fear we may break him. A couple of weeks rest and a plan to bring him back as an intercept defender will do him a lot of good. I hate the Cunningham omissionAgree on Weitering I reckon he may be injured mentally and emotionally rather than anything physical and I like your idea of a couple of weeks rest, maybe even 3-4 just to get him keen and relaxed. Might even work him back by the NB's so he is say coming off a good game before he plays seniors again.....Cuningham is another mystifying MC non selection.... Quote Selected
Re: 2018 Rd 5: Pre-Game Pessimism: Carlton vs West Coast Reply #63 – April 19, 2018, 07:12:18 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on April 19, 2018, 07:08:01 pmAgree on Weitering I reckon he may be injured mentally and emotionally rather than anything physical and I like your idea of a couple of weeks rest, maybe even 3-4 just to get him keen and relaxed. Might even work him back by the NB's so he is say coming off a good game before he plays seniors again.....Cuningham is another mystifying MC non selection....Apparently Weitering has a bad corkie. Quote Selected
Re: 2018 Rd 5: Pre-Game Pessimism: Carlton vs West Coast Reply #64 – April 19, 2018, 07:19:20 pm Either JK will kick 8, or we will be jag a very surprise victory. Quote Selected
Re: 2018 Rd 5: Pre-Game Pessimism: Carlton vs West Coast Reply #65 – April 19, 2018, 07:20:49 pm CARLTONB: Lachie Plowman, Liam Jones, Aaron MullettHB: Cameron O'Shea, Sam Rowe, Kade SimpsonC: Zac Fisher, Paddy Dow, Sam KerridgeHF: Jed Lamb, Levi Casboult, Ed CurnowF: Harry McKay, Charlie Curnow, Matthew WrightR: Andrew Phillips, Patrick Cripps, Sam Petrevski-SetonInt: Lochie O'Brien, Jarrod Garlett, Dale Thomas, Jack SilvagniEMG: Pat Kerr, Matt Shaw, Nick Graham, Kym LeboisI don't know what Cuningham did wrong. His first half last week wasn't bad at all. He offered nothing on the forward line, but it did have to get there.WEST COAST EAGLESB: Shannon Hurn, Tom Barrass, Brad SheppardHB: Lewis Jetta, Jeremy McGovern, Liam DugganC: Dom Sheed, Luke Shuey, Chris MastenHF: Jamie Cripps, Jack Darling, Mark LeCrasF: Jake Waterman, Josh J. Kennedy, Scott LycettR: Nic Naitanui, Elliot Yeo, Andrew GaffInt: Jack Redden, Jackson Nelson, Mark Hutchings, William RioliEMG: Jack Petruccelle, Francis Watson, Thomas Cole, Will SchofieldI don't like having Phillips up against NicNat, but ... I'm not sure either he or Rowe is 100% match fit, but they are named. Kerridge should have been in last week.I am not confident at all. Quote Selected
Re: 2018 Rd 5: Pre-Game Pessimism: Carlton vs West Coast Reply #66 – April 19, 2018, 07:36:18 pm Quote from: crashlander – on April 19, 2018, 07:20:49 pmCARLTONB: Lachie Plowman, Liam Jones, Aaron MullettHB: Cameron O'Shea, Sam Rowe, Kade SimpsonC: Zac Fisher, Paddy Dow, Sam KerridgeHF: Jed Lamb, Levi Casboult, Ed CurnowF: Harry McKay, Charlie Curnow, Matthew WrightR: Andrew Phillips, Patrick Cripps, Sam Petrevski-SetonInt: Lochie O'Brien, Jarrod Garlett, Dale Thomas, Jack SilvagniEMG: Pat Kerr, Matt Shaw, Nick Graham, Kym LeboisI don't know what Cuningham did wrong. His first half last week wasn't bad at all. He offered nothing on the forward line, but it did have to get there.WEST COAST EAGLESB: Shannon Hurn, Tom Barrass, Brad SheppardHB: Lewis Jetta, Jeremy McGovern, Liam DugganC: Dom Sheed, Luke Shuey, Chris MastenHF: Jamie Cripps, Jack Darling, Mark LeCrasF: Jake Waterman, Josh J. Kennedy, Scott LycettR: Nic Naitanui, Elliot Yeo, Andrew GaffInt: Jack Redden, Jackson Nelson, Mark Hutchings, William RioliEMG: Jack Petruccelle, Francis Watson, Thomas Cole, Will SchofieldI don't like having Phillips up against NicNat, but ... I'm not sure either he or Rowe is 100% match fit, but they are named. Kerridge should have been in last week.I am not confident at all. WC look small down back, we have the one extra tall unless they include Schofield at the last minute......Luke Shuey usually does a number on us so he needs a tag for the day.McGovern vs Charlie C should be a decent battle in the air....I'm not convinced WC are that good and while they have a potent forward line and good rucks I actually think we can kick a few goals against this mob and are a chance.......Blues by 5 points... Quote Selected Last Edit: April 19, 2018, 07:39:53 pm by ElwoodBlues1
Re: 2018 Rd 5: Pre-Game Pessimism: Carlton vs West Coast Reply #67 – April 19, 2018, 07:44:20 pm Quote from: crashlander – on April 19, 2018, 07:20:49 pmI don't know what Cuningham did wrong. His first half last week wasn't bad at all. He offered nothing on the forward line, but it did have to get there.I agree, Cuningham wasn’t our worst by a long shot.I guess it’s an opportunity for Phillips and McKay ... and it’s interesting that Kerr is named as an emergency. I guess that reflects Fraser’s assessment of his efforts with the NBs. Quote Selected
Re: 2018 Rd 5: Pre-Game Pessimism: Carlton vs West Coast Reply #68 – April 19, 2018, 07:52:32 pm I thought MK and MK returned from injury prematurely, so I'm frustrated but not surprised they are out.I commented last week that Weiters had limped for a lot of the game. I hope he rests up and comes back with strength and determination. Graham was a no brainer. Love his endeavor but it's not enough for this level. As for Cunningham, I just don't understand his ommission I thought he'd been building steadily. Obviously I got that very wrong.I sincerely hope Rowe is ready! All the best to Sam. Harry finally gets a gig. Nothing much to lose there IMO. All the best to Phillips on his return. He'll get smashed my NN. Hopefully he gets a mark or two down forward.If Sam Kerridge can match his form from last year's later rounds, he'll be a wise inclusion. I think we'll get belted and help WC improve their confidence playing @ MCG. I hope I'm proven wrong though. Go Blues Quote Selected
Re: 2018 Rd 5: Pre-Game Pessimism: Carlton vs West Coast Reply #69 – April 19, 2018, 08:08:18 pm Bolton said he wants the kids to play together....but drops cuningham.Bolton said Harry isn't ready and wants him to prove himself...but picks him despite an ordinary showing.Makes sense. Quote Selected
Re: 2018 Rd 5: Pre-Game Pessimism: Carlton vs West Coast Reply #70 – April 19, 2018, 08:15:25 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on April 19, 2018, 07:36:18 pmWC look small down back, we have the one extra tall unless they include Schofield at the last minute......Luke Shuey usually does a number on us so he needs a tag for the day.McGovern vs Charlie C should be a decent battle in the air....I'm not convinced WC are that good and while they have a potent forward line and good rucks I actually think we can kick a few goals against this mob and are a chance.......Blues by 5 points...You are either a genius or a nutcase, either way I love your work Quote Selected
Re: 2018 Rd 5: Pre-Game Pessimism: Carlton vs West Coast Reply #71 – April 19, 2018, 08:25:09 pm Cuningham is the captain of frustration or teasing. His good is very good and he really does excite from time to time but he is such a liability when he has one of those many fade outs/lapses during games... and he does it in every game he plays - just goes missing, not to mention his defensive game is cause for concern.I gave him a vote after the last game because of his 'glimpses', they are special. In an ideal world, he'd be an outside mid / half forward... but at present, even with his highly skilled moments, his big lapses make him a luxury we can't afford. This side looks better, more in-form blokes. 2 blokes carrying injuries -- Kreuzer/Kennedy -- and 1 bloke's head not right -- Weitering -- are out of the side. Good. They all need to get themselves right.Disappointed H got the nod in front of Kerr, who has shown better form in the twos. I wonder if we're playing H just to shut everyone up. Boy I hope he shows something. But might as well experiment, nothing to lose... so to speak.With more experienced blokes coming in you'd expect us to be beaten by around 50 pts instead of around 90 pts. Quote Selected
Re: 2018 Rd 5: Pre-Game Pessimism: Carlton vs West Coast Reply #72 – April 19, 2018, 08:28:54 pm Quote from: Gointocarlton – on April 19, 2018, 08:15:25 pmYou are either a genius or a nutcase, either way I love your work Cheers GTC, look its a stretch looking for positives but I really believe WC are a flakey team that we can do well against and they may take us a bit easy and we can cause an upset.......you are right I must be a nutcase , Quote Selected
Re: 2018 Rd 5: Pre-Game Pessimism: Carlton vs West Coast Reply #73 – April 19, 2018, 08:34:19 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on April 19, 2018, 08:28:54 pmCheers GTC, look its a stretch looking for positives but I really believe WC are a flakey team that we can do well against and they may take us a bit easy and we can cause an upset.......you are right I must be a nutcase ,West Coast don't play well at the G....so we must be some kind of a chance. Maybe not half a chance, but a quarter of a chance? Quote Selected
Re: 2018 Rd 5: Pre-Game Pessimism: Carlton vs West Coast Reply #74 – April 19, 2018, 08:37:31 pm Quote from: kruddler – on April 19, 2018, 08:34:19 pmWest Coast don't play well at the G....so we must be some kind of a chance. Maybe not half a chance, but a quarter of a chance?Thats probably the right odds.... Quote Selected