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Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #91 –
When rowe cannot kick the ball without kicking it 5 meters to the oposision what example does he set when he drops easy marks and fumbles under pressure it just is not good enough for a senior player he should be setting a better example

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #92 –
Quote from: Slugger – on
When rowe cannot kick the ball without kicking it 5 meters to the oposision what example does he set when he drops easy marks and fumbles under pressure it just is not good enough for a senior player he should be setting a better example

Jones and Marchbank did the very same, I was watching TV and listening to radio when Jones fecked up and the radio blamed Weitering!

There was one incident today, it might have been Rowe or Jones who took an intercept mark and went to play on past a team-mate, the team-mate who I won't reference because I am not sure who it was, let an opponent run past unhindered to pressure the kicker which resulted in a turnover. Just a simple arm or a bump would have seen Rowe or Jones free to run off! The commentators, spuds as they are, slammed Rowe or Jones for the turnover and made no mention of their team-mate the spectator! That is the sort of crap our defence has to put up with!

Nthmond always shepherd for a team-mate, Carlton hardly ever!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #93 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
I was thinking the same.

His tweet...

“Everyone talks about draft picks and developing youth, but no-one talks about culture.”

People were too ready to dismiss it as a disgruntled employee but he probably has no reason to tweet something like that unless it was right.

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #94 –
Quote from: LP – on
Don't agree about Rowe, we are now doing to him what we did to Weitering, and Rowe's suffering the same fate!

I thought Thomas was one of our better players today.


Rowe is a very average footballer in my opinion, but he's only one of a long line of average footballers who have played more than their fair share of games for the CFC over the last two decades.
I agree about Thomas today, I thought he at least tried and didn't drop his head.
The only thing in this world worth more than a hill of beans is the Carlton Football Club.

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #95 –
Quote from: LP – on
Jones and Marchbank did the very same, I was watching TV and listening to radio when Jones fecked up and the radio blamed Weitering!

There was one incident today, it might have been Rowe or Jones who took an intercept mark and went to play on past a team-mate, the team-mate who I won't reference because I am not sure who it was, let an opponent run past unhindered to pressure the kicker which resulted in a turnover. Just a simple arm or a bump would have seen Rowe or Jones free to run off! That is the sort of crap our defence has to put up with!

Nthmond always shepherd for a team-mate, Carlton hardly ever!

Unfortunately they're Firstmond these days because they do those thing they never used to do.
 

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #96 –
Neither the Jones or rowe turnover was under any sort of pressure Jones was just a scrubber kick and Rowes was just a crap decision both stuffed up as bad as each other but in my opinion Rowe has passed hes used by date ,dont think this is a personal attack on rowe I admire the man for what he has gone through to play at the top level and I would be the first one to shake hes hand and say thanks for giving your all to mine and your football club but it is time

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #97 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Something I'm finding really strange is that there seem to have been matches this year when we've selected teams to "Go for the win" and other times when we've seemed to go for the "experimentation" or "development of kids " option.

You can almost pick the games based on team selection on a Thursday night.
I never had the feeling this was a "Go for the win!" game. ???

Reading past posts Lods, there's plenty on here with the same view.
Once the team is announced many folk have questioned MC decisions.
So I don't think your view is strange at all. Combine that with the injuries and what appears to be some strange injury management, and it is experimental. By default rather than design.
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #98 –
Quote from: Slugger – on
Neither the Jones or rowe turnover was under any sort of pressure Jones was just a scrubber kick and Rowes was just a crap decision both stuffed up as bad as each other but in my opinion Rowe has passed hes used by date ,dont think this is a personal attack on rowe I admire the man for what he has gone through to play at the top level and I would be the first one to shake hes hand and say thanks for giving your all to mine and your football club but it is time

I wasn't making an excuse for the other incidents, or defending unpressurised turnovers of which there were many, but it's the effect our teams crap work ethic and culture has in building pressure on each other!

I've been arguing for a long time, our team plays with no sacrifice, it feels like they are all too busy climbing to the top of a drowning pile of team-mates!

Another good example of that today was Murphy getting slammed, .................. and Hodge picking him up! FMD, Hodge felt sorry for him, and Hodge is a dead-set white line fever kent!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #99 –
Quote from: Slugger – on
Neither the Jones or rowe turnover was under any sort of pressure Jones was just a scrubber kick and Rowes was just a crap decision both stuffed up as bad as each other but in my opinion Rowe has passed hes used by date ,dont think this is a personal attack on rowe I admire the man for what he has gone through to play at the top level and I would be the first one to shake hes hand and say thanks for giving your all to mine and your football club but it is time

I agree Slugger and I agree that the others you named aren't good enough either, but seriously mate there is just nothing in the VFL.
The only thing in this world worth more than a hill of beans is the Carlton Football Club.

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #100 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Something I'm finding really strange is that there seem to have been matches this year when we've selected teams to "Go for the win" and other times when we've seemed to go for the "experimentation" or "development of kids " option.

You can almost pick the games based on team selection on a Thursday night.
I never had the feeling this was a "Go for the win!" game. ???

Skillful tanking.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #101 –
Some fans slam the club for re-signing Murphy, Murphy has signed up for more of this!

Murphy was far from our worst today!

We should be nominating him for a Nobel Prize, he's sacrificed more than Mother Teresa!

Let's get this straight, so it isn't glossed over, Murphy signed up for more of this!

99.999% of people would have cut and run!

No wonder Hodge picked him up! :o
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #102 –
Quote from: Slugger – on
Neither the Jones or rowe turnover was under any sort of pressure Jones was just a scrubber kick and Rowes was just a crap decision both stuffed up as bad as each other but in my opinion Rowe has passed hes used by date ,dont think this is a personal attack on rowe I admire the man for what he has gone through to play at the top level and I would be the first one to shake hes hand and say thanks for giving your all to mine and your football club but it is time

Yes, it's times Weitering and Marchbank, when fit, take the main defensive roles. Let them know their roles and play them. Weitering looks totally lost as to his role.

While I don't like to use VFL form the day I saw Weitering return through there I have never seen an AFL player dominate at that level so much ever. He was a general, al leader, took total control of the backline, knew his role, played it to perfection, read the play beautifully and used it well finishing with 17 marks. in the AFL we play 4 key defenders, so Weitering is not playing the KP role, seems confused, lost and plays accordingly. We saw alot of that in is first year. Even 1st game in his 2nd year he went forward and really smacked Rance. Problem we left him in that unfamiliar role and it affected him. It's time now to put faith in these young blokes and let them play the role they were recruited for at both ends of the ground, and even in the midfield. give some of the 2nd and 3rd year kids responsibility now and see what happens, could be surprised.

Bolton can answer as to why Weitering has gone so far backwards.

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #103 –
Quote from: LP – on
Some fans slam the club for re-signing Murphy, Murphy has signed up for more of this!

Murphy was far from our worst today!

We should be nominating him for a Nobel Prize, he's sacrificed more than Mother Teresa!

Let's get this straight, so it isn't glossed over, Murphy signed up for more of this!

99.999% of people would have cut and run!

No wonder Hodge picked him up! :o

I agree!

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #104 –
Quote from: laj – on
His tweet...

“Everyone talks about draft picks and developing youth, but no-one talks about culture.”

People were too ready to dismiss it as a disgruntled employee but he probably has no reason to tweet something like that unless it was right.

I'd be inclined to agree. Bolton doesn't seem like a divisive, conniving type. He seems like a fairly decent, honest type, not the sort who would corrupt or derail culture. The fact that all 4 of our teams are struggling means it's a club wide issue IMO. If I was a betting man, and the club's culture is indeed rotten, I'd be looking at someone(s) more senior than him.