Carlton Supporters Club

Yes we would have moved Setanta and Thornton out of the forward line. A big win if you ask me.

I don't deny that it's all speculation - hence the existence of the forum.

You can't take a few games in isolation, if he hadn't been sacked the whole dynamic of the team would have been different and we might not have played in any of those finals, it's certain that our results would have been different for better or worse.
I think that Fevola was a toxic influence and that we were better off without him so you and I can't agree on this one.

It's like arguing that had Ratten stayed things wouldn't have been like this.

It's impossible to know what knock on effect some decisions may or may not have had.

Hes had a few handy seasons in his 10 year AFL career.  But he has largely been an also ran even if he is a big bodied also ran who can hurt the opposition without a possession.  The stats actually show, he wasnt as good as anyone thinks he was.

Starting with the 03 season, he never kicked less than 49 goals in a season. If that isn't handy, I don't know what is.

Apart from the Lara Bingle episode, which was poor IMO, most of Fev's harm was to himself. I don't think he was toxic, but he was certainly immature and basically a big baby.

Starting with the 03 season, he never kicked less than 49 goals in a season. If that isn't handy, I don't know what is.

Yes, it's hard to justify an attempt to downplay Fev's influence on the field by discussing his foibles off-field.

Fans best keep in mind that after that "Final Straw", McGuire's Pies, Brayshaw's Norp and Lyon's Dees all made inquiries about Fevola when it was clear his time was done at Carlton!

Media beat up, Voss was our only hope of getting a brass razoo for him.

I've never said that he lacked ability, in fact my post which kicked this discussion off described him as a champion full forwsrd.
His weakness was his almost total lack of self discipline, which to its discredit the club tolerated for far too long.
Pagan wanted him dropped the week that he took his boots off on the bench but was overruled by a weak kneed board, which effectively gave him carte blanche and destroyed the authority of the senior coach.
Some would say that it's been downhill ever since.
He should have been shown the door years before he was in my opinion.

Fevola reported he knocked back a better offer from the Pies because he needed to get away from his situation.

How did we get here on to Fev on the Post Game?

How did we get here on to Fev on the Post Game?

That blue4life, you need to watch him - a real larrikin.