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Re: Round 1 - Blues v Tigers (21 March)

Reply #180 –
I hope we give Cunningham a good crack at the centre bounces.

Seemed to make an impact each time they put him in there during the JLT.

Not the perfect player but he's got that quickness off the mark which is hard to stop around stoppages.

Re: Round 1 - Blues v Tigers (21 March)

Reply #181 –
Quote from: jeza – on
I hope we give Cunningham a good crack at the centre bounces.

Seemed to make an impact each time they put him in there during the JLT.

Not the perfect player but he's got that quickness off the mark which is hard to stop around stoppages.

Yes, if Cuningham can build on his JLT form he will be in for a good season.

He has the attributes to capitalise on the opportunities the 6-6-6 rule will provide ... and he has been productive around the goals.
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Re: Round 1 - Blues v Tigers (21 March)

Reply #182 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Carrazzo first game. Picked on HBF
Carrazzo second game. Picked in the BP.
Carrazzo 3rd game. BP
4th game...BP

Do i need to continue?

Lets.
Where was Carrazzo picked?
First game HBF
Next 13 games BP
Next 4 games C / R
Next 1 game HBF
Next 1 game BP
Next 2 games bench

I couldn't be bothered continuing from here. I think you get the point. Well, you should've got it the first time, but i digress.

Thats his first 22 games. Polson has played just 13 so far....at a younger age by comparison.


As for the rest of your critique on my analysis, i've already gone into detail of the pros of playing Polson vs Fasolo previously. No need to go through it again.

No one doubts Carrots' first senior games (not as many as you suggest) were back pocket/HBF taking the opposition small forwards - doesn't mean he's not a mid through and through....

doesn't change the simple, glaringly obvious fact to most, that Polson - at this stage of his development - appears to be a net liability. If you're actually trying to win a game of footy.

As for the pressure wins games spin, well you do have a long held position of stating the bleeding obvious.....
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Round 1 - Blues v Tigers (21 March)

Reply #183 –
Quote from: northernblue – on
If kicking goals was the only requirement to win games of football why do we pick defenders, rucks and midfielders ?

You missed the point completely.

Polson is not to the standard of even an average AFL player and if we are serious about winning against a top 4 team we need players who capable to compete against an even higher level which is why I said if we are serious Polson can't play.

Re: Round 1 - Blues v Tigers (21 March)

Reply #184 –
Maybe BB reads this forum?  ;)

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/cellar-dweller-to-weller-feller-at-tigers-20190319-p515kq.html

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Their opponents Carlton, meanwhile, will select former Collingwood forward Alex Fasolo as one of four recruits from other clubs to line up for the Blues for the first time, along with No.1 draft pick Sam Walsh and VFL recruit Michael Gibbons.

In all, the Blues are expected to have six newcomers for the opening game: ex-Crow Mitch McGovern, former Giants midfielder Will Setterfield, ex-Swans defender Nic Newman, Gibbons, Fasolo and the highly impressive Walsh.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Round 1 - Blues v Tigers (21 March)

Reply #185 –
I also heard Fasolo has been told he is playing. Be interesting to see who is left out. I wouldn't be surprised if Garlett doesn't play, and Murphy goes to a HBF. Alternatively Gibbons might play VFL, although I'd prefer him in the FP than Fasolo at this stage. Will be interested to see if Fasolo has lifted his defensive intensity

Re: Round 1 - Blues v Tigers (21 March)

Reply #186 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Before i comment about polson, again, let me point out that this time last year i was saying he was #1 in line for delisting at the end of the year. As it turns out, he lifted and showed me something i didn;t think he had in him. Not much, but glimpses. Come end of year and 12(?) others are shown the door in one way or another before him.

Back to Polson...you say we can't afford the luxury of a defensive forward line player like Polson. I say we can't afford to carry 2 specialist FP players who offer little else for the team, including defensive pressure.
Having Gibbons and Fasolo in the same forward line with the 3 key forwards will offer very little resistance to the defenders should they decide to run the ball out of defence. Further to that, we have blokes like Murphy and Garlett who are not known for their tackling or close checking either. Hell, throw in Cripps who has trouble catching up with his shadow and you see why we can't carry too many blokes who leave their opponent to run free. Hence the need for a player who will chase down his own opponent, but also chase after someone elses who has been 'let go'.

Forwards don't win you games.
Defenders don't win you games.
Midfielders don't win you games.
Pressure wins you games.

If you harrass the opposition for 100% of the time they have the ball, you win the game.

In a critical first out game such as this, you need more than 'glimpses' and potential. Fas has proven himself in big games.

No point applying pressure if when you have aggott in hand you give it back to the opposition.
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Re: Round 1 - Blues v Tigers (21 March)

Reply #187 –
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I say we can't afford to carry 2 specialist FP players who offer little else for the team, including defensive pressure.
Having Gibbons and Fasolo in the same forward line with the 3 key forwards will offer very little resistance to the defenders should they decide to run the ball out of defence.

Hold on, Gibbons has been an outstanding inside/outside mid all during his VFL career, now he's a "specialist FP" with nothing else to offer....? And no defensive pressure? That's not what I saw from Gibbons in the JLT games!

And even Fas has been known to have cameos in the middle....

Hmm, very self serving concoction me thinks.
Finals, then 4 in a row!
 

Re: Round 1 - Blues v Tigers (21 March)

Reply #188 –
As a specialist forward especially at the G, Alex Fasolo wins hands down over Gibbons no question. Gibbons in the midfield interchangeable with Fasolo.
Also I think Garlett should play too can sparkle as a dynamic forward and he’ll be an alternate option around the ground, will the spaces a5 the G.

Re: Round 1 - Blues v Tigers (21 March)

Reply #190 –
Fasalo has to kick goals to be effective and hopefully the new rules with 6 on 6 will suit him as he is a strong mark for his inches and capable on the deck.
He wont give much defensive pressure but if he kicks 2-3 goals and can be part of another couple then he has probably done his job.

Agree with Fly on Gibbons.....is a midfielder in the main but has shown in the JLT games he is a smart footballer who can also play forward and if you ever watched him play for Willy he would drift forward take the odd mark through better judgement and does apply pressure by laying some good tackles.
He will take a turn in the midfield when we need a change too but with our midfield batting deeper I dont expect him to get a lot of minutes yet..

Gibbons will put his head over the ball and contest well....with players like Garlett and Cuningham you are never sure what you are getting on the day and how switched on they are..

Re: Round 1 - Blues v Tigers (21 March)

Reply #192 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
Lynch to play!

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/tom-lynch-to-make-tigers-debut-against-carlton-20190320-p515ps.html

Hopefully he will be overawed with the whole thing being it will be the biggest crowd he has ever played in front of. I think he will kick 1.3 ... fingers crossed :D
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Re: Round 1 - Blues v Tigers (21 March)

Reply #193 –
If Fasolo plays tomorrow as reported then I'd think Polson probably misses out. For mine Garlett didn't show much in the JLT games but probably keeps his spot by virtue of his pace...something we don't have much of coming out of the backline.

Re: Round 1 - Blues v Tigers (21 March)

Reply #194 –
Quote from: blueboys_1 – on
Never in doubt. Was always going to play.

Agree.....with his track record vs us and all the hype around him he was always going to play even if he was/is underdone.
If the ball is down our forward line more then he wont be a factor......