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Re: JLT Round 1 - Blues v Hird's Old Crew (this Thursday, Princes Park)

Reply #150
Agree with an earlier comment about Garlett...not sure he's suited to a defensive role. On more than one occasion yesterday he tried to take mark of the century and left his opponent over the back to get easy balls. He's got pace but just doesn't seem to have a defensive nature to his game and his kicking lets him down at times too.

Of our blokes out, I would probably only think Kruezer, Marchbank, Fasolo (fit) and maybe Kennedy would be in the possible best 22 this year...obviously Docherty out for the season.

But a very encouraging performance and the midfield looked 100% better than anything from last year.

Tom W??

Re: JLT Round 1 - Blues v Hird's Old Crew (this Thursday, Princes Park)

Reply #151
Tom Williamson a walkup start IF fit......

IS Marchy, Willo fit Daisy and Simmo are in the firing line... as they should be.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: JLT Round 1 - Blues v Hird's Old Crew (this Thursday, Princes Park)

Reply #152
If Williamson gets back and playing it's an added bonus for sure but not holding my breath on that one. It might be a horses for courses strategy with defenders when Marchbank is fit. With Jones & Weitering the two main key defenders, Marchbank might get squeezed out...then the likes of Plowman, Newman, Simpson/Thomas. If nothing else, it might mean we've got some depth for a change with blokes fighting for spots. Weitering looked 10 times more assured when attacking the ball than last year....another good sign.

Re: JLT Round 1 - Blues v Hird's Old Crew (this Thursday, Princes Park)

Reply #153
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/weitering-a-top-priority-for-carlton-20190301-p511ah.html

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He's 21, having played 56 games. Whereas Charlie Curnow, his draft class mate of 2015, emerged as a major forward force last year, Weitering remained a dormant talent – a symbol, indeed, of Carlton's vast unrealised potential as a football club.

Weitering stumbled in 2018 for various reasons. It didn't help that that the Blues were awful, and that he was being asked to play as a key defender in a team that was getting smashed in the midfield.

In normal circumstances, a young key back begins his career as the second or third tall, playing alongside a 150-gamer who plays on the premier forwards. Weitering, alas, wasn't afforded the typical apprenticeship.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: JLT Round 1 - Blues v Hird's Old Crew (this Thursday, Princes Park)

Reply #154
Tom Williamson a walkup start IF fit......

IS Marchy, Willo fit Daisy and Simmo are in the firing line... as they should be.

A bloke who hasn't played a game in 18 months, and hasn't been able to train with any consistency is about as far from a walkup start as possible.

Ability is one thing. Being physically and mentally ready for AFL is completely different.

Re: JLT Round 1 - Blues v Hird's Old Crew (this Thursday, Princes Park)

Reply #155
A bloke who hasn't played a game in 18 months, and hasn't been able to train with any consistency is about as far from a walkup start as possible.

Ability is one thing. Being physically and mentally ready for AFL is completely different.

Perhaps a walk up start was overly generous. Your slap down was ordinary, but expected. Entirely.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: JLT Round 1 - Blues v Hird's Old Crew (this Thursday, Princes Park)

Reply #156
Perhaps a walk up start was overly generous. Your slap down was ordinary, but expected. Entirely.

As it should be expected. If you say something clearly outlandish, you will be called on it. As you would with me. I expect nothing less.

Re: JLT Round 1 - Blues v Hird's Old Crew (this Thursday, Princes Park)

Reply #157
Tom Williamson a walkup start IF fit......

IS Marchy, Willo fit Daisy and Simmo are in the firing line... as they should be.

Williamson has been a big loss, he can play on a variety of players and his kicking is a weapon.....be a walkup start for me too if fit.
Without a proper preseason he is going to struggle even if he does get back but i cant believe some people want to axe him off the list and rookie him etc.....

Re: JLT Round 1 - Blues v Hird's Old Crew (this Thursday, Princes Park)

Reply #158
I would have said that they got some drive out of defence from McKenna and Saad.  Unfortunately, the few times they did break the lines ended up with the ball out the back and easy goals.

I thought we did very well at forcing Essendon to go down the line and often ending up out of bounds.

It’s still a work in progress but the basics are there.

The times they did break out made us look vulnerable to that level of pace - something to be aware of and be prepared for. Can't afford complacency, long way to go yet.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: JLT Round 1 - Blues v Hird's Old Crew (this Thursday, Princes Park)

Reply #159
I enjoyed going to the game last night, it's always a joy to win against the Bummers!

Thoughts on the game....

Gibbo is a lock for a small forward role, he showed his class last night, I would like to have seen him play more midfield minutes, but alas. His greatest weakness is probably penetration in his kicking, but as long as he plays within his limitations, he will do just fine.

McGovern looked good, he got on the lead or at least lost his man a couple of times to take a mark and get a shot on goal.
H and Charlie both seemed too content to sit in the goal square and let the mids bomb it long to the top of the square. Ok we did score quite a few crumbing goals from this, but I would prefer to see more movement and creativity in our forward movement and leading patterns.

Newman was solid, dependable and exactly what he needs to be in his role down back. Nothing flashy, but he wins his contests and plays his role. He doesn't have Docherty's quality, but I would consider him a competent replacement. 

Settters seemed to have a quiet 1st half, at least I didn't notice him too much, but he seemed to work his way into the game from then on. To be expected for someone who has been out of the game for as long as he has I guess. He showed some class and skills and did enough in the end to encourage me that he will be a good addition to our midfield.

Schuey I didn't see until about 2 minutes before the final siren, so can't really comment. His stats read 2 tackles which might say something about his intent for the short time he was on the ground.

Walsh. Believe the hype, all of it. I could not have been more impressed, he was in everything, backing into packs, making 2nd and 3rd efforts when team mates were just ball gazing. Phenomenal game for a 1st year player. Very excited. 

Sammo has stepped up. He probably needed to, but IMO he has, or did last night anyhow, he looked good, got involved and used the ball well.

Dow, a year below Fisher and Sammo and looked a step below them last night too, which is more observation than a criticism. I was impressed that every time it was his time to 'go' he did, and more often than not got the ball and did something constructive with it. I didn't notice any 'wow' moments, but that's ok by me.

Phillips was probably the standout tall player on the ground, dominated the 2nd qtr and made solid contributions in the other 3 with some great marks around the ground.

I thought Daisy was the best of our older guys.

Without looking at the stats, the ball seemed to spend a lot more time in our forward half than it did theirs, so we won that battle. When they did get the ball out it was out the front of a contest and then on a fast break. We had no answer when this happened. Over all though our defense was much better than anything seen last year, but our ball movement seemed a bit scratchy at times, so plenty of things still to work on !!

A fairly high scoring game, Im sure the AFL will be happy about that, although the new rules didn't make any obvious differences to me, which is probably a good thing.

I asked an Essendon supporter sitting next to me how many they had out from their best 22? He counted 4, I counted 4 for us as well, so no excuses for either side there.
Mens sana in corpore sano - A healthy mind in a healthy body.

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Re: JLT Round 1 - Blues v Hird's Old Crew (this Thursday, Princes Park)

Reply #160
Okay, just watched a high definition replay of the game, the guy I 'thought' was a bulked up Lochie O'Brien was in fact, Sam Walsh who was everywhere. The guy covers ground I will give him that, AND he is only a first-year player. Really, Really impressive stuff from this guy.

Will Setterfield appears much taller than 190cm, he seems to be nearer to Cripps height - can anyone confirm in the flesh?

Cunningham's game was a class above anything he's previously delivered. Really fantastic by his standards.

Our forwards need to work more together, they really spoiled each other, but Jack was better than 7 possessions (can't quite believe that from the replay).

Re: JLT Round 1 - Blues v Hird's Old Crew (this Thursday, Princes Park)

Reply #161
I thought Jack looked taller too....

And the old skipper, almost looked lost to me - not knowing his role/place in the new hierarchy?
Finals, then 4 in a row!

 

Re: JLT Round 1 - Blues v Hird's Old Crew (this Thursday, Princes Park)

Reply #162
I thought Jack looked taller too....

And the old skipper, almost looked lost to me - not knowing his role/place in the new hierarchy?

Jack looked at least as tall as McGovern and Setterfield  :)

I thought Murphy was good; his positioning and ball use complemented the work of Samo, Walsh, Dow, Setterfield et al.  He should be in for a good season and will relish less opposition attention.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: JLT Round 1 - Blues v Hird's Old Crew (this Thursday, Princes Park)

Reply #163
I thought Murphy went well and looked more assured in a way  - was tackling harder for one thing. I am looking forward to a significant contribution from him this year.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: JLT Round 1 - Blues v Hird's Old Crew (this Thursday, Princes Park)

Reply #164
The times they did break out made us look vulnerable to that level of pace - something to be aware of and be prepared for. Can't afford complacency, long way to go yet.

Absolutely Cookie!

I thought that we maintained pressure on Essendon players attempting to break the lines, and Walsh’s run down tackle epitomised that. They still got away with it too often but not as much as they would have over the last couple of years.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball