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Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston

Reply #15 –
I reckon we can trouble the whorks.  Their midfield is thin and slow and they are short in defence.   If Burgoyne,  OMeara and Stratton miss we wont have any excuses IMO.  They're ripe for the taking.
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Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston

Reply #16 –
Hawks have played 14 great qtrs out of 16, just 2 shocking last qtrs. They're still going pretty well.

Charlie in to play midfield.
 

Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston

Reply #17 –
Quote from: laj – on
Hawks have played 14 great qtrs out of 16, just 2 shocking last qtrs. They're still going pretty well.

Charlie in to play midfield.

What’s the fascination with many who want to turn Charlie into a midfielder....I just don’t get it.

His main weakness imo is his disposal efficiency and his decision making when up the ground is questionable to say the least.

He is young and trying to learn his craft at being a key match winner forward-prefer he masters want he looks to be his nature game then wasting time playing him out of position.

We have young developing mids in Walsh Fish Dow SPS. They need to be given as much midfield time as possible imo.

Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston

Reply #18 –
Quote from: shawny – on
What’s the fascination with many who want to turn Charlie into a midfielder....I just don’t get it.

His main weakness imo is his disposal efficiency and his decision making when up the ground is questionable to say the least.

He is young and trying to learn his craft at being a key match winner forward-prefer he masters want he looks to be his nature game then wasting time playing him out of position.

We have young developing mids in Walsh Fish Dow SPS. They need to be given as much midfield time as possible imo.

It's where he played mostly as an u18. If you have a chance to strengthen it further, why not. We have depth in our forwards now so now reason he can't play on a wing. he can be a strong marking target coming out of defence. A powerful midfield wins you alot.

Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston

Reply #19 –
Quote from: laj – on
It's where he played mostly as an u18. If you have a chance to strengthen it further, why not. We have depth in our forwards now so now reason he can't play on a wing. he can be a strong marking target coming out of defence. A powerful midfield wins you alot.

x4. Or even the old ruck rover type - just roam far and wide!
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston

Reply #20 –
Quote from: laj – on
It's where he played mostly as an u18. If you have a chance to strengthen it further, why not. We have depth in our forwards now so now reason he can't play on a wing. he can be a strong marking target coming out of defence. A powerful midfield wins you alot.

He would cost us goals with poor decisions. Good midfield groups are settled ones and one with clean ball users. Charlie is indecisive and turns it over way too much imo to risk unsettling a building midfield group who were drafted to play midfield.

Reckon opposition teams would much prefer Charlie lining up on a wing then deep forward too.

Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston

Reply #21 –
Quote from: shawny – on
He would cost us goals with poor decisions. Good midfield groups are settled ones and one with clean ball users. Charlie is indecisive and turns it over way too much imo to risk unsettling a building midfield group who were drafted to play midfield.

Reckon opposition teams would much prefer Charlie lining up on a wing then deep forward too.

Um, what rubbish. Massive rubbish.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston

Reply #22 –
Just watching the first quarter of Hawthorn vs geelong and I think we might struggle next week.  This is a tough competitive scrappy pressure game and if its played similarly next week, it will take a bit of class to get us across the line.

Its winnable on paper, but we need to be mindful that Hawthorn have had a few injuries which have contributed to big losses.

"everything you know is wrong"

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Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston

Reply #23 –
Quote from: laj – on
It's where he played mostly as an u18. If you have a chance to strengthen it further, why not. We have depth in our forwards now so now reason he can't play on a wing. he can be a strong marking target coming out of defence. A powerful midfield wins you alot.

As I said in the other thread, Charlie didn’t play in the midfield at under 18 level.  He did play as a ruckman but I wouldn’t like to see him getting smashed in ruck contests.

His strengths are his marking and aerobic ability and his weaknesses are decision-making and lack of agility; not really midfielder attributes.
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Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston

Reply #24 –
Quote from: DJC – on
As I said in the other thread, Charlie didn’t play in the midfield at under 18 level.  He did play as a ruckman but I wouldn’t like to see him getting smashed in ruck contests.

His strengths are his marking and aerobic ability and his weaknesses are decision-making and lack of agility; not really midfielder attributes.

I think i originally floated the idea a bit over a week ago of Charlie playing wing.

Doesn't have to have clean/quick hands playing on a wing, as opposed to in the guts, but can use his marking and aerobic ability as a link between defence and attack.

Given we've just smashed 100 points for the first time in 3 years, why would we wanna change that by (re)introducing Charlie into the fold up forward?

Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston

Reply #25 –
Watching the whorks v cats....boring as batcrap game... Both sides going with a short kick possession game.   Both sides kick it 1000 times better than us,  if we let them chip it around the whorks will kill us.   More than a few average players running around for them,  dunno what the excitement surrounding OMeara is about, kicking is crap and awareness poor.
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Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston

Reply #26 –
Quote from: DJC – on
As I said in the other thread, Charlie didn’t play in the midfield at under 18 level.  He did play as a ruckman but I wouldn’t like to see him getting smashed in ruck contests.

His strengths are his marking and aerobic ability and his weaknesses are decision-making and lack of agility; not really midfielder attributes.

Bit rich on both fronts - sure he's been off this year thus far.... but to say he's a poor decision maker per se and not "agile" beggars belief....
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston

Reply #27 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
sure he's been off this year thus far

17 possessions, 9 marks, 4 tackles and a goal all on a dodgy knee.... I think we are all very harsh on young Charlie

Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston

Reply #28 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
Um, what rubbish. Massive rubbish.

Is it as much rubbish as your yearly pre season dribble where you talk up every single player on our list to amazingly high level to then have you backflip after we drop a few early games  :-\

But yeah....my post is rubbish.... ::) 

Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs Hawthorn in Launceston

Reply #29 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Just watching the first quarter of Hawthorn vs geelong and I think we might struggle next week.  This is a tough competitive scrappy pressure game and if its played similarly next week, it will take a bit of class to get us across the line.

Its winnable on paper, but we need to be mindful that Hawthorn have had a few injuries which have contributed to big losses.

Evidently McEvoy finished for the day on the bench ?hip flexor.
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Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
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