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Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS

Reply #75 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Kennedy needs time like Setterfield both still learning...Jye Bolton and Marlion Pickett are mature footballers.
If Ed isnt tagging he doesnt impact enough for mine, we really need a Tim Kelly who can step straight in, get 25 plus possies a game and draw some heat off Cripps but quality like that
as a freebie doesnt  come around that often so you have to go with whats available.
We dont need more 75kg kids at the mid season draft.....

We got Gibbons who won three league medals as a mid, but our genius coach has decided to turn him into a forward pocket.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS

Reply #76 –
We play ourselves into the ground against Hawthorn and go down by less than a goal  (away in Tassie...no mean feat!). Then we don't turn up against North.

We push the league's form team like few others have this year and scare the crap out of them for 3 quarters and 20 mins. Then we don't turn up against GWS.

Re employ Rudy Webster....it's all between the ears!!

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS

Reply #77 –
Norp and the White Walkers both had physical intimidating players we do not like playing against, we become turtles under Mumford type physical pressure.

A kid like Polson will crack in but he is a support player, there is no point expecting blokes like Polson or Murphy to do the heavy hitting and see out a game! So nothing is gained by making those changes as we just do not have enough of that type, we are too easy to play against!

Yesterday's game was a blight on SpecialK, Casboult and maybe even Charlie, McKay and McGovern, allowing a spud like Mumford to make himself so valuable without having to touch the football.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"
 

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS

Reply #78 –
Quote from: LP – on
Norp and the White Walkers both had physical intimidating players we do not like playing against, we become turtles under Mumford type physical pressure.

A kid like Polson will crack in but he is a support player, there is no point expecting blokes like Polson or Murphy to do the heavy hitting and see out a game! So nothing is gained by making those changes as we just do not have enough of that type, we are too easy to play against!

Yesterday's game was a blight on SpecialK, Casboult and maybe even Charlie, McKay and McGovern, allowing a spud like Mumford to make himself so valuable without having to touch the football.

I wish we had a spud like Mumford.

We talk up our blokes all the time but they all go missing when it counts.

This is a historic problem and even cripps did it yesterday.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS

Reply #79 –
They walked out there with the wrong mental mindset.

Inexcusable at this level of professional sport....

That is amateur hour. Fundamental, inexcusable mistake.

38 shots to 10.

I50 - 65 to 35 (and a lot of our came late in the game).

Newman the only player with more than 20 disposals - they had 12.

I'm over Bolton - nice blokes seldom win.

Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS

Reply #80 –
Mumford is one player out of 22. Stop exaggerating. The GWS boys are the cleanest, nicest blokes in the AFL.

We got beaten by a team that is more experienced, older, more polished, more skilful, hungrier and desperate to atone for last week's embarrassment.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS

Reply #81 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
I wish we had a spud like Mumford.

We talk up our blokes all the time but they all go missing when it counts.

This is a historic problem and even cripps did it yesterday.

A few of us have warned the toll it will take on Cripps leaving him out there week after week without support, now you are seeing it happen!

Next thing will be Cripps gets reported, out of frustration, and the white-ants like Lyon and Watson will be all about how low can we go! I'm telling you the best thing would be for him to get a week or two now, and let him loose on the taggers for the remainder of the season free of concerns like Brownlows or B&Fs!

Quote from: PaulP – on
Mumford is one player out of 22. Stop exaggerating. The GWS boys are the cleanest, nicest blokes in the AFL.

We got beaten by a team that is more experienced, older, more polished, more skilful, hungrier and desperate to atone for last week's embarrassment.

Mumford, Greene, Shaw, Cameron, Davis, Kelly and Finlayson are veritable thugs compared to our lot! Almost all of their list tackle to hurt, we don't and if we do we get reported or penalised, like that joke free against Daisy!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS

Reply #82 –
Again, dumb coaching - we have Kennedy, Ed Curnow and even Gibbons as mature, big bodies....

Kennedy not picked week after week despite being one of the best in the 2s....and LOB does get picked after showing exactly nothing.

Ed C played in the forward line when he's a grunt, stopper type - and nothing else really.

Gibbons - he won two Listons doing what exactly?

Was SoJ tried in the guts yesterday?
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS

Reply #83 –
Quote from: LP – on
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Mumford, Greene, Shaw, Cameron, Davis, Kelly and Finlayson are veritable thugs compared to our lot! Almost all of their list tackle to hurt, we don't and if we do we get reported or penalised, like that joke free against Daisy!

Given all the moaning and groaning about umps and how unfair they are to us, is it possible that over the years the players have become tentative and uncertain, or have simply given up because no matter what they do, it's wrong ?

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS

Reply #84 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
Again, dumb coaching - we have Kennedy, Ed Curnow and even Gibbons as mature, big bodies....

Kennedy not picked week after week despite being one of the best in the 2s....and LOB does get picked after showing exactly nothing.

Ed C played in the forward line when he's a grunt, stopper type - and nothing else really.

Gibbons - he won two Listons doing what exactly?

Was SoJ tried in the guts yesterday?

Gibbons wasn't a positive yesterday, he was all over the field causing turnovers and free kicks. The panicked poor disposals he could get away with in the VFL just cost AFL goals!

SoJ had no match up yesterday in the midfield, neither did Ed, the problems start at the MC and a lack of our own game plan to deal with the GWS run and spread or the Mumford intimidation.

Fans want Kennedy, but he's fragile and he certainly doesn't add pace.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS

Reply #85 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Given all the moaning and groaning about umps and how unfair they are to us, is it possible that over the years the players have become tentative and uncertain, or have simply given up because no matter what they do, it's wrong ?

Perhaps that is the price you pay when you keep your head down and let others do the talking. Fans lambasted Lloyd today, but he should be in the media 10 times a week not rarely and only when things are so bad, he should be a regular weekly or daily defender of the troupes, and fully experienced in the media by now!

Ask yourself this question,

"How can it be the umpires are so hyper-sensitive to the treatment of a player like De Boer, and yet seemingly indifferent to the way he treats his victims?"

The joke is the suggestion from officials or fans that our professional players can somehow be immune, indifferent or deflecting of this "External Noise!"
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS

Reply #86 –
Quote from: LP – on
Gibbons wasn't a positive yesterday, he was all over he field causing turnovers and free kicks. The panicked poor disposals he could get away with in the VFL just cost AFL goals!

SoJ had no match up yesterday in the midfield, neither did Ed, the problems start at the MC and a lack of our own game plan to deal with the GWS run and spread or the Mumford intimidation.

Fans want Kennedy, but he's fragile and he certainly doesn't add pace.

Kennedy is not fragile (despite recent injuries) and he's not slow.

At least he puts in...young Lachie - a disaster thus far.

Was never a #10 draftee.

And Dow needs to play 2s and learn how to play the game again....
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS

Reply #87 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
Kennedy is not fragile (despite recent injuries) and he's not slow.

At least he puts in...young Lachie - a disaster thus far.

Was never a #10 draftee.

And Dow needs to play 2s and learn how to play the game again....

They do not play in the same position, and never will!

The MC won't replace O'Brien with a Kennedy type, for Kennedy to come in the MC must be chopping Setterfield, Gibbons, Fisher, Dow, Ed, or Cripps.

You are thinking emotively and not clearly, if Kennedy replaces O'Brien a slow must become a HBF or a Wing, and we are already slow enough!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS

Reply #88 –
Still hearing footy 'experts' David King saying we have the talent and it can turn quick. What a load of BS. 

Fact is we only have Cripps, Doc, Weitering, Mckay, Newman, Fisher, Jones, Walsh, Charlie and I will include SPS and McGovern as core players that have already made it or look highly likely to make it and will be there in 3 years time.  That's 11 players on a 40 player list.

The rest are made up of older guys who wont be there or kids with potential.

How is this viewed as 'we have the talent'?  It 'might' be very talented in 2 or 3 years time, but who knows.

What am i missing here?
  


    


 

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 9: Carlton vs. GWS

Reply #89 –
Coming off their worst loss,  their three most important players back,  I'm  actually surprised it was only 93 points.

Talk about one man teams,  Mumford adds ten goals to that side.

Why do we only ever play them at their home ground,  after they come off bad losses?
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