Re: Daisy in strife Reply #30 – May 28, 2019, 07:38:03 pm Quote from: PaulP – on May 28, 2019, 06:44:18 pmYep. What a hullabaloo over not much. And to think Rhys-Jones used to have a ciggy at half time and Lord knows what else afterwards. https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2019-05-28/club-statement-dale-thomasEddie was defending Daisy this morning, if only we had a leader like him. We are the worst run club in the country. Quote Selected
Re: Daisy in strife Reply #31 – May 28, 2019, 07:38:51 pm Quote from: PaulP – on May 28, 2019, 07:34:37 pmMy issue is with the punishment rather than the rules. In my view, we have a tendency to go overboard with these things. He's been a model citizen for ages, why not just give him a warning ?The other thing is who is actually being punished ? We have no seniors as it is. Why leave him in the magoos when we desperately need a win. I think we punish ourselves more than any individual. There's some fine tuning required to how we deal with these issues - too draconian for mine.The rules will be in place, most likely so will the punishments. In any event, setting an example of what can happen to a senior player, will make sure that everybody knows what is required and that nobody is exempt. Quote Selected
Re: Daisy in strife Reply #32 – May 28, 2019, 07:44:10 pm Quote from: madbluboy – on May 28, 2019, 07:38:03 pmEddie was defending Daisy this morning, if only we had a leader like him. We are the worst run club in the country.Not sure about your last sentence, but this "high standards" business needs some tweaking. We seem to be more concerned with showing the world how "professional" we are, but it never feels like we have each other's back. It feels a bit like hanging people out to dry. I also wish we had someone like McGuire. Quote Selected
Re: Daisy in strife Reply #33 – May 28, 2019, 07:48:23 pm I lived opposite Didak for quite a few years. What he and his team mates got up to on the sauce was unbelievable. No details I'll reveal here. Daisy never attended once BTW.FACTS Quote Selected Last Edit: May 28, 2019, 07:49:56 pm by capcom
Re: Daisy in strife Reply #34 – May 28, 2019, 07:56:36 pm Quote from: capcom – on May 28, 2019, 07:48:23 pmI lived opposite Didak for quite a few years. What he and his team mates got up to on the sauce was unbelievable. No details I'll reveal here. Daisy never attended once BTW.FACTS Didak was a rat packer and thick as thieves with Johnson, Tarrant, Shaw and of course Dane Swan. Quote Selected
Re: Daisy in strife Reply #35 – May 28, 2019, 08:00:17 pm His peers have made the judgementDaisy's accepted the penalty, and taken responsibility.You can understand how it happened...most of us would probably struggle to stop at one or two given the surrounds and the feel good event.But we're not part of a struggling club, under the microscope at the moment, about 12 hours from a training session and 48 hours from an important game.This is player driven and I'm happy for them to be the judge. Quote Selected
Re: Daisy in strife Reply #36 – May 28, 2019, 08:12:32 pm Quote from: Lods – on May 28, 2019, 08:00:17 pmHis peers have made the judgementDaisy's accepted the penalty, .......................This is player driven and I'm happy for them to be the judge.I think that makes it worse. He had a bit to drink, at an event for a very good charitable cause, spilled someone's glass, no harm done. It's not like he was out at all hours, drinking at the local with his mates, fighting etc.Seems very OTT to me. Quote Selected
Re: Daisy in strife Reply #37 – May 28, 2019, 08:27:32 pm Quote from: PaulP – on May 28, 2019, 08:12:32 pmI think that makes it worse. He had a bit to drink, at an event for a very good charitable cause, spilled someone's glass, no harm done. It's not like he was out at all hours, drinking at the local with his mates, fighting etc.Seems very OTT to me.The leadership group obviously thought it wasn't up to the standards they've set themselves. We have to back their judgement as they'd have a much better idea of exactly how much Daisy overindulged.He seems OK with it and is saying all the right things.We're demanding leadership and high standards on the field...I've no problem if the players demand as much of themselves off the field.It's probably as much about the self discipline as it is about the amount drunk. Quote Selected
Re: Daisy in strife Reply #38 – May 28, 2019, 08:30:47 pm Quote from: PaulP – on May 28, 2019, 08:12:32 pmSeems very OTT to me.I'd heard several senior club officials were also at the dinner, which was a matched wine and food type event, I didn't post it earlier because I had no correlated reports, but the presence of Warnock suggests the club may have had some involvement.I suspect Daisy may have fallen on his sword to save them all face because more would have been dragged into it!How would fans feel if board members and executives were also at the event and knew Daisy was drinking with the dinner coarses? Quote Selected Last Edit: May 28, 2019, 08:34:21 pm by LP
Re: Daisy in strife Reply #39 – May 28, 2019, 08:38:38 pm Quote from: Lods – on May 28, 2019, 08:00:17 pmHis peers have made the judgementDaisy's accepted the penalty, and taken responsibility.You can understand how it happened...most of us would probably struggle to stop at one or two given the surrounds and the feel good event.But we're not part of a struggling club, under the microscope at the moment, about 12 hours from a training session and 48 hours from an important game.This is player driven and I'm happy for them to be the judge.x2 Quote Selected
Re: Daisy in strife Reply #40 – May 28, 2019, 08:39:54 pm Quote from: PaulP – on May 28, 2019, 08:12:32 pmI think that makes it worse. He had a bit to drink, at an event for a very good charitable cause, spilled someone's glass, no harm done. It's not like he was out at all hours, drinking at the local with his mates, fighting etc.Seems very OTT to me.Been to a few of these wine pairing things and 5 glasses would be the equivalent of 2. Quote Selected
Re: Daisy in strife Reply #41 – May 28, 2019, 08:40:33 pm Our players haven't earned the right to judge Daisy. Quote Selected
Re: Daisy in strife Reply #42 – May 28, 2019, 08:42:01 pm Quote from: madbluboy – on May 28, 2019, 08:39:54 pmBeen to a few of these wine pairing things and 5 glasses would be the equivalent of 2.I've never been to one, so can't comment. But when someone like me starts wondering whether the CFC has become too much of a nanny state, you know something's up. Still seems like a big beat up to me. Quote Selected
Re: Daisy in strife Reply #43 – May 28, 2019, 08:42:54 pm Quote from: madbluboy – on May 28, 2019, 08:40:33 pmOur players haven't earned the right to judge Daisy.I doubt the playing group imposed this, it's a bit ludicrous. Quote Selected
Re: Daisy in strife Reply #44 – May 28, 2019, 08:45:24 pm Quote from: LP – on May 28, 2019, 08:42:54 pmI doubt the playing group imposed this, it's a bit ludicrous.If they didn't we're in more strife than we thought because the statements gone out under their' banner.' Quote Selected