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Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 11: Carlton vs. the Drug Cheats

Reply #60 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
I actually think we will lose Cripps if we move Bolton on.
I think it’ll be the other way.
Keep losing under Bolton without giving him support and Cripps will have had enough.
I can’t say I blame him if he says he wants to go so he can win more games and have a crack at a flag with the weagles or duckers (yes typo intended)
But since the eagles bent us over to get Judd we had better repay the favour.
(I’d rather have Cripps though)

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 11: Carlton vs. the Drug Cheats

Reply #61 –
There is a fundamental coaching flaw if we have so many entries inside 50, but do nothing with them.  What has Teague given us in terms of strategies and plans?

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 11: Carlton vs. the Drug Cheats

Reply #62 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
I actually think we will lose Cripps if we move Bolton on.

Based on what?
He didn’t look like he was playing for the coach today.
Cripps is a warrior, he wants to win

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 11: Carlton vs. the Drug Cheats

Reply #63 –
I know stats are stats. Here's some interesting running stats.
4 of the top 5 are Carlton players for:
Distance covered
Fastest in attack and defence
Most sprints
Most repeat sprints
Carlton sprinted 51 v 30 and +2 tackles

My interpretation. Our players are running their guts out. Ineffectively chasing their tailfeathers. Aka chooks with their heads cut off.
Come to think of it, that's exactly what it looked like today. Ineffectual presence.
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 11: Carlton vs. the Drug Cheats

Reply #64 –
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
There is a fundamental coaching flaw if we have so many entries inside 50, but do nothing with them.  What has Teague given us in terms of strategies and plans?

Why do we have an ex forward coaching the midfield, and we do we have an ex defender coaching our forwards ?

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 11: Carlton vs. the Drug Cheats

Reply #65 –
Quote from: LoveNavy – on
I know stats are stats. Here's some interesting running stats.
4 of the top 5 are Carlton players for:
Distance covered
Fastest in attack and defence
Most sprints
Most repeat sprints
Carlton sprinted 51 v 30 and +2 tackles

My interpretation. Our players are running their guts out. Ineffectively chasing their tailfeathers. Aka chooks with their heads cut off.
Come to think of it, that's exactly what it looked like today. Ineffectual presence.

We have no system, we just hack it forward a long the boundary.

The players have lost faith now, it's embarrassing for them. We got belted by the Essendon reserves today.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 11: Carlton vs. the Drug Cheats

Reply #66 –
Bad enough that we're due for another spoon.

The list has lost all confidence and that erodes all else.  We failed where Essendon succeeded ... tackling and player options out the back where they exposed us.

We're killing Cripps and will do the same with Walsh and Stocker (and I love this kid) if we're not careful.

One thing I will say about an opposition player I thought was a flash in the pan .... Tipungwuti ... he's VERY good.  Took him a year or two, but very clever

Weitering?  Take a well deserved bow mate

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 11: Carlton vs. the Drug Cheats

Reply #67 –
Quote from: JonHenry – on
Based on what?
He didn’t look like he was playing for the coach today.
Cripps is a warrior, he wants to win
Based on the fact that he has said publicly he has backed the board, their plan and Bolts. I think, Im guessing only, that he would see it as a kick in the guts seeing the coach, who he has a strong relationship with, go.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 11: Carlton vs. the Drug Cheats

Reply #68 –
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
There is a fundamental coaching flaw if we have so many entries inside 50, but do nothing with them.  What has Teague given us in terms of strategies and plans?
Zero
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership
 

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 11: Carlton vs. the Drug Cheats

Reply #69 –
i though Weitering was great today, Levi tried hard in an unnatural position for him, Kreuzer played his heart out both in the ruck and on the ground. Besides some ordinary disposal, Dow’s ability to get the ball, footwork out of traffic and his acceleration away from packs makes me feel confident that he will become a very good player for us. Setterfield showed that he can find the football and doesn’t mind getting dirty. Stocker improves every week and Walsh is a lock champion of the future.  Cuningham needs continuity because he can play. Our spine of McKay, Curnow, Cripps, Weitering and Jones is a more than useful framework, with youth on its side. Lang, Fasolo and Kennedy don’t belong. 

There’s still plenty to work with, but they need to be guided and directed properly.  That’s the part we haven’t got in place unfortunately. 

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 11: Carlton vs. the Drug Cheats

Reply #70 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Why do we have an ex forward coaching the midfield, and we do we have an ex defender coaching our forwards ?

Teague did a very good job coaching the forwards at Adelaide. Coming to Carlton as an assistant is a death wish....lol. Coaching our forward line would be a nightmare. Essentially an impossible job.

But, anyway, I do see your point.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 11: Carlton vs. the Drug Cheats

Reply #71 –
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
i though Weitering was great today, Levi tried hard in an unnatural position for him, Kreuzer played his heart out both in the ruck and on the ground. Besides some ordinary disposal, Dow’s ability to get the ball, footwork out of traffic and his acceleration away from packs makes me feel confident that he will become a very good player for us. Setterfield showed that he can find the football and doesn’t mind getting dirty. Stocker improves every week and Walsh is a lock champion of the future.  Cuningham needs continuity because he can play. Our spine of McKay, Curnow, Cripps, Weitering and Jones is a more than useful framework, with youth on its side. Lang, Fasolo and Kennedy don’t belong. 

There’s still plenty to work with, but they need to be guided and directed properly.  That’s the part we haven’t got in place unfortunately.
Great Post

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 11: Carlton vs. the Drug Cheats

Reply #72 –
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
There is a fundamental coaching flaw if we have so many entries inside 50, but do nothing with them.  What has Teague given us in terms of strategies and plans?

Would you like the job of be a Carlton forward coach? Did a great job as forward coach at Adelaide for 3 years, very highly regarded at West Coast so what happens to he and others when they come here?. The way the ball comes into the f50 how do you coach that. Line coaches are at the mercy of the plan of the head coach. Get a bad one of those and everyone looks bad. Ratten probably looked pretty average under Pagan, until he got the top job.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 11: Carlton vs. the Drug Cheats

Reply #73 –
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
i though Weitering was great today, Levi tried hard in an unnatural position for him, Kreuzer played his heart out both in the ruck and on the ground. Besides some ordinary disposal, Dow’s ability to get the ball, footwork out of traffic and his acceleration away from packs makes me feel confident that he will become a very good player for us. Setterfield showed that he can find the football and doesn’t mind getting dirty. Stocker improves every week and Walsh is a lock champion of the future.  Cuningham needs continuity because he can play. Our spine of McKay, Curnow, Cripps, Weitering and Jones is a more than useful framework, with youth on its side. Lang, Fasolo and Kennedy don’t belong. 

There’s still plenty to work with, but they need to be guided and directed properly.  That’s the part we haven’t got in place unfortunately.

Weitering competed well but gee did he just simply kick blindly out of defence so many times - without any thought whatsoever....that said, it was coming in thick and fast....

I suspect the players know or feel the axe is coming for Bolts....
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 11: Carlton vs. the Drug Cheats

Reply #74 –
Shouldn't post this I guess but during the game there was a shot of a few of our players sitting in the stands and BT said "There's a number of the Carlton players looking on" and I thought, as the camera returned to the play, that he could have followed up by saying " and more of them out on the ground doing the same thing!"
Reality always wins in the end.