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Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #15 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
Deluca should have had 2 goals against his name today.

Who was playing on Graham, never saw anyone near him...?

He doesn't look confident attacking near goal imo. Looks ok defensively. Is he a small forward or a mid? We need a clever quick sf. 
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #16 –
Quote from: LoveNavy – on
He doesn't look confident attacking near goal imo. Looks ok defensively. Is he a small forward or a mid? We need a clever quick sf.
Deluca was more of a mid in the WAFL. Like Gibbons, we’re trying to fill a gap by playing him forward.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #17 –
... and Kade Simpson's last quarter effort was amazing.  Without his sweeping efforts across back, we'd have been whipped.  They only had 3 more shots at goal. 
 

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #18 –
Quote from: capcom – on
... and Kade Simpson's last quarter effort was amazing.  Without his sweeping efforts across back, we'd have been whipped.  They only had 3 more shots at goal.

I thought him, plowman and Daisy were gold down back.

The amount of contests, intercept marks and tackles for a free saved over 10 goals between them.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #19 –
Quote from: Barbs – on
Deluca was more of a mid in the WAFL. Like Gibbons, we’re trying to fill a gap by playing him forward.

but has played plenty as a SF in the West.

He just needed to stop and think through it more - even that pass to Daisy (which Daisy then missed), it was a one step guaranteed goal!
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #20 –
Quote from: Barbs – on
Deluca was more of a mid in the WAFL. Like Gibbons, we’re trying to fill a gap by playing him forward.

Of course. Need a spoon, get a fork ????

To eat soup ????
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #21 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
I thought him, plowman and Daisy were gold down back.

The amount of contests, intercept marks and tackles for a free saved over 10 goals between them.
Plowman is a liability in our backline.
Too slow to play on small forwards,  or strong enough for the bigger guys and again demonstrated his appalling kicking today.
His only value is that sometimes he marks opposition miskicks while he is standing in space.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #22 –
Quote from: Barbs – on
Plowman is a liability in our backline.
Too slow to play on small forwards,  or strong enough for the bigger guys and again demonstrated his appalling kicking today.
His only value is that sometimes he marks opposition miskicks while he is standing in space.

Couldn't agree more. Plowman has some strengths, but his mistakes are unbelievably costly. E Curnow, Simpson and Newman also struggle with decision making across a whole game.

Having said all of that, there is nobody in our reserves side that could do any better.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #23 –
Also, does anybody know whats going on with David Cunnngham? Not in the VFL or seniors??

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #24 –
Quote from: JonDorotich – on
Also, does anybody know whats going on with David Cunnngham? Not in the VFL or seniors??

According to the injury update for R21 (posted on the 6th August), Cuningham played 78 minutes in the VFL last week, pulled up ok and was in the mix for selection for today's game. He was listed in the lineup for today's VFL game, but I don't know if he played.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #25 –
Simply answer is we just don't have players with good ball skills.  Ball use going forward of centre is deplorable. Still have no system and even when we get a rare break and have space (like Fisher did in the third) we rarely spot up a forward and find a way to turn an easy entry into a turnover or at best a 50/50. Been the same for the last 15 years. 

Its one area that just doesn't seem to improve and you have to wonder when is it going to change. 


 

 

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #26 –
Quote from: LoveNavy – on
While Jonesy and Weiters held their big guys admirably, the small forward kicks 4 and catch this.... lays 14 tackles.

We desperately need one of those!

Graham is a midfielder essentially who rested down forward from what I saw in a bit of a Dusty mode.
He is a very strong unit and played well in the Tigers GF win after only playing about 5 games, he was ideal for the conditions today and
I think we under estimated his abilities and we didnt seem to have anyone on him, he was rotating onball so maybe our inballers rather than defenders also
are to blame for not picking him up.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #27 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Graham is a midfielder essentially who rested down forward from what I saw in a bit of a Dusty mode.
He is a very strong unit and played well in the Tigers GF win after only playing about 5 games, he was ideal for the conditions today and
I think we under estimated his abilities and we didnt seem to have anyone on him, he was rotating onball so maybe our inballers rather than defenders also
are to blame for not picking him up.

We had Matt Kennedy - dropped him strangely!
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #28 –
Jones and Weitering did well but neither guy can do what Casboult was doing a few weeks as far as intercept marking. His numbers were better than Jeremy McGovern's.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #29 –
Quote from: Barbs – on
Plowman is a liability in our backline.
Too slow to play on small forwards,  or strong enough for the bigger guys and again demonstrated his appalling kicking today.
His only value is that sometimes he marks opposition miskicks while he is standing in space.

How do you think he gets in that space, he zones off, reads the play and helps out teammates.

He is faster than he looks, but obviously is not cut out to play on the fastest of small forwards. Is that his fault or is it the coaches fault for putting him on those blokes? Nobody else can do better.

People complain about his kicking and/or decision making.
Today he had 3 clangers.

These players also had 3 (or more) clangers today...
SPS
Casboult
McKay
Simpson
DeLuca
McGovern
Silvagni
Curnow
Walsh
Weitering
Fisher
Murphy.


...but sure, lets single out Plowman.