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Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #120 –
[1] We can't play wet weather football. This season when it rains we fumble, mishandle the ball, miskick the ball and lose confidence. When the rain stops we start playing.
[2] We have not won a game on free to air TV for 2 seasons. Maybe more. Nor have the seconds.
[3] Our forward work is very ordinary at the moment. We don't have that extra mid or the specialist small forwards tht other teams have.
[4] Kreuzer dominated in the ruck for 3 quarters, yet we couldn't get the clearances. Why? We fumbled the ball.
[5] Too many of our players miss goals from set shots. Far too many.
[6] Our game style is not as desperate as Richmond's yet. I want us to show that level of desperation: we will rarely lose if we do. However, we also need more fast guys who will tackle.
[7] Our list is not yet deep enough. Our injuries kill us. Hopefully we have fewer injuries, but we haven't had anything like a full list to select from at this time of the season since the early 1990's. Brisbane have no injuries. Richmond have very few, and were an incompetent mess when they had some.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #121 –
Kreuzer's ruck work was very sloppy - i reckon they scored 4-5 goals from his taps.....
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #122 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
Kreuzer's ruck work was very sloppy - i reckon they scored 4-5 goals from his taps.....

Agree, he kept tapping backwards in the wet.
Needed to get the ball forward.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #123 –
Kreuzer was sometimes poor and attempted to nullify rather than ruck.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #124 –
The whole game our midfielders were surrendering the front position to faster opponents, it didn't maker sense and allowed Nthmond to clear too many of Kreuzer's taps.

The problem is twofold, Nthmond are allowed to grab opponents off the ball without penalty, and opposition teams do not react to those tactics. The trick is to complain loudly and early, to make umpires aware of the tactic, the best way to complain is turn around and give an opponent "a shove" in the chest drawing attention as you do it, you'll give away a couple of frees early but umpires will become aware of the problem.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #125 –
Quote from: LP – on
The whole game our midfielders were surrendering the front position to faster opponents, it didn't maker sense and allow Nthmond to clear too many of Kreuzer's taps.

The problem is twofold, Nthmond are allowed to grab opponents off the ball without penalty, and opposition teams do not react to those tactics. The trick is to complain loudly and early, to make umpires aware of the tactic, the best way to complain is turn around and give an opponent a shove in the chest, you'll give away a couple of frees early but umpires will become aware of the problem.
Besides Simmo and Murph occasionally, none of our players are little whinging bitches and they need to be!

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #126 –
Quote from: Micky0 – on
Besides Simmo and Murph occasionally, none of our players are little whinging bitches and they need to be!

Nthmond rely on teams/opponents not wanting to be seen as whingers, yet you won't find a bigger set of beggars in the AFL than Cotchin and Riewoldt!

We can joke about it, but it's smart because the big game influencing variable in AFL is the umpiring, it makes or breaks teams.

If 1 in 10 or 15 umpiring decisions go your way because of the complaining the balance of a game can be tipped and you'll probably win more than you lose!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #127 –
Quote from: LP – on
The whole game our midfielders were surrendering the front position to faster opponents, it didn't maker sense and allow Nthmond to clear too many of Kreuzer's taps.

The problem is twofold, Nthmond are allowed to grab opponents off the ball without penalty, and opposition teams do not react to those tactics. The trick is to complain loudly and early, to make umpires aware of the tactic, the best way to complain is turn around and give an opponent "a shove" in the chest drawing attention as you do it, you'll give away a couple of frees early but umpires will become aware of the problem.

Yep, the squeaky wheel....
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #128 –
Quote from: Micky0 – on
Besides Simmo and Murph occasionally, none of our players are little whinging bitches and they need to be!

Cripps spends a lot of time letting the umpires know what he thinks of their decisions - and I guess that’s part of his role.  Most of our defenders are quite demonstrative when they get bad calls, particularly Weitering, Plowman and Marchbank - Jones doesn’t say much.

I don’t think Murph said anything when he was penalised for deliberate out of bounds but the look on his face was worth a thousand words.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball
 

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #129 –
Can I assume the captain of any club is still permitted to approach field umpires to make their case about perceived indiscretions?  Talk about a protected species on handsome salaries

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #130 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
Yep, the squeaky wheel....

Partly we are to blame, inclusively as Carlton fans. We do get out-voiced by opposition fans, be it Nthmond, The Filth or CheatsFC, and umpires are also heavily influenced by the crowd. That is the real home ground advantage, nothing to do with ground size, shape, surface, location or orientation. Pretty much everyone knew or knows that, but we still surrendered our home ground, our club didn't put a value on that, and now we get scheduled to play in sleepy hollow!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #131 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
No chance..

I think they will use that ambiguous term "insufficient force"...the player on the receiving end is the only one who can judge that though. The intent should be equally important.

Dangerfield, Ablett, Selwood, Dusty... Riewoldt, all the big names can take a swing/get in a sneaky blow/action at a lesser name and get away with it unless its so blatant and obvious and even then it will get appealed down.
It almost needs an independent body adjudicating but how can anything be independent with the AFL funding it?

Intent should be MORE important.

You can 'supposedly' can done for attempting to strike as its all about intent.

You have a guy laying on the ground, defensless, with his arm already behind his back courtesy of your tackle. Then for no other possible reason apart from deliberately trying to hurt him, you wrench the arm upwards further.

INTENT INTENT INTENT.

Should get 4 weeks like Judd did.

Lucky Jones is Mr Elastic!

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 21: Carlton vs. Richmond

Reply #134 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
The latest (R22) injury update talks briefly about Cuningham.

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2019-08-13/injury-update-round-22


Thanks. Interesting, “he didn’t have power in his knee so we pulled him out for a conditioning block”?? Not sure what all that means other than to say he’s incredibly injury prone.