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2019 & 2020 Thoughts

2019 Positives & Negatives:
On field:


Players who delivered, consistently: Cripps, E Curnow, Gibson, Jones, Newman, Simpson, Thomas, Walsh (Murphy later in the year).

Biggest disappoint(s) when compared to pre season expectations: Dow, Cuningham (the King Of Cameos), Fisher, Garlett, Pickett, Kennedy, Lang, McGovern (until fitter!!!!), Polson.     Northern Blues.

Surprise packet(s): Newman, Walsh.

DCMs: Garlett, Lang, Macreadie, Polson.

Sign him up for more years, now: Cripps.

We need/get him/them: Gun mid, gun small forward.

Off field:
Most encouraging activity/results: Membership and Member initiatives. Club’s involvement in community. Getting The Terrier to the club and now the Hawthorn psychologist as well. DT appointment.

Biggest disappointment (s): Bolton’s performance and subsequent removal & Board slow to react to BBs removal. Dow and Fisher failing to improve as hoped/expected. Obviously, injuries to key personnel. Judd embarrassing the club with foolish and ill-considered public comments.

We need/get him/her/them: New coach for the Northern Blues, DT gets the assistants he wants. More involvement from past champs… should be regular visitors to the club.

2020

Acceptable minimum wins: 11.

Players MUST: start well and stop periods in games where we concede 4-7 unanswered goals. Profound concentration and on-field leadership and discipline improvement. Cease to be the nice guys of the competition... time for some ruthlessness.

Player(s) who MUST improve: Cuningham, Dow, Fisher, McGovern, McKay’s kicking & thinking, Setterfield.

(crystal ball time) Player(s) who will surprise with their improvement: Deluca, McGovern, Setterfield.

Most looking forward to beating: Richmond and Hawthorn.

(crystal ball again) Our ladder position will be: 8 – 10.

AFL should: Prevent marquee players changing clubs to top 8 clubs. 'Equalization is happening' says Gil… lying pr1ck, I say.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Weiters has had a solid year, ditto Levi?

SPS too once moved back.

Dow and Fisher the biggest negatives for me (nb. O"Brien is a  total miss imo)
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2019 Positives & Negatives:
On field:


Players who delivered, consistently: Cripps, E Curnow, Gibson, Jones, Newman, Simpson, Thomas, Walsh (Murphy later in the year).

Biggest disappoint(s) when compared to pre season expectations: Dow, Cuningham (the King Of Cameos), Fisher, Garlett, Pickett, Kennedy, Lang, McGovern (until fitter!!!!), Polson.     Northern Blues.

Surprise packet(s): Newman, Walsh.

DCMs: Garlett, Lang, Macreadie, Polson.

Sign him up for more years, now: Cripps.

We need/get him/them: Gun mid, gun small forward.

Off field:
Most encouraging activity/results: Membership and Member initiatives. Club’s involvement in community. Getting The Terrier to the club and now the Hawthorn psychologist as well. DT appointment.

Biggest disappointment (s): Bolton’s performance and subsequent removal & Board slow to react to BBs removal. Dow and Fisher failing to improve as hoped/expected. Obviously, injuries to key personnel. Judd embarrassing the club with foolish and ill-considered public comments.

We need/get him/her/them: New coach for the Northern Blues, DT gets the assistants he wants. More involvement from past champs… should be regular visitors to the club.

2020

Acceptable minimum wins: 11.

Players MUST: start well and stop periods in games where we concede 4-7 unanswered goals. Profound concentration and on-field leadership and discipline improvement. Cease to be the nice guys of the competition... time for some ruthlessness.

Player(s) who MUST improve: Cuningham, Dow, Fisher, McGovern, McKay’s kicking & thinking, Setterfield.

(crystal ball time) Player(s) who will surprise with their improvement: Deluca, McGovern, Setterfield.

Most looking forward to beating: Richmond and Hawthorn.

(crystal ball again) Our ladder position will be: 8 – 10.

AFL should: Prevent marquee players changing clubs to top 8 clubs. 'Equalization is happening' says Gil… lying pr1ck, I say.


Just about exactly my summation as well.  I'd add our training focus MUST be on kicking and accountability for opponents.  Time is up for some, like it or not.  Tipungwuti and another big name for 2020.   AND WORK STARTS MONDAY!!!!


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Positives & Negatives:
On field:

Players who delivered, consistently: Cripps, E Curnow, Weiters, Jones, Newman, Walsh

Biggest disappoint(s) when compared to pre season expectations: Fisher, Dow, McGovern,

Surprise packet(s): Newman, Weiters, Harry, SPS, Murph
DCMs: Lang

Sign him up for more years, now: Cripps.
And CRIPPS and SPS

We need/get him/them: Big bodies in mid.

Off field:
Most encouraging activity/results: Changing the coach after giving him ample time to deliver, appointing DT and NOT Lyon or Scott or Voss!!!!

Biggest disappointment (s): Judds training wheels stupid commentary

We need/get him/her/them: a little goal sneak, some tougher blokes

2020

Acceptable minimum wins: 8-10

Players MUST: play full games, none of this testing for a quarter business! Keep playing smart

Player(s) who Must improve: McGovern, Fish, Dow


(crystal ball time) Player(s) who will surprise with their improvement: McGov Fish Dow ????????

Most looking forward to beating: Richmond.

(crystal ball again) Our ladder position will be: 10.

AFL should: explain umpiring decisions, treat teams equally st tribunal, Gill to FO and get someone more suitable and less biased .

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Biggest area needing improvement is skills/decision making when moving the ball into the F50. Still move it in like under 12s. Also Cripps to work thru a tag.

Weitering, Walsh and Newman major positives.

Fisher, Dow Obrien and McGovern major negatives.

2020 finish without getting in another A grade mid:12-13.

2020 finish With A grade mid and no major injuries: 8-10.

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Fisher, Dow Obrien and McGovern major negatives.

That's very good news, the worst players are a bunch of lightweight kids, and a bloke in his 1st year at Carlton!
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2019 Positives & Negatives:
On field:


Players who delivered, consistently: Cripps, E Curnow, Gibbons, Jones, Newman, Simpson, Thomas, Walsh (Murphy later in the year).
Cripps remains dynamic, but needs to put more work into breaking tags. But he has delivered.
Ed Curnow has had one of his best years and probably still has a few more in the tank.
Gibbons has probably been something of a surprise. I didn't expect him to play as much as he did.
Jones is beginning to look like an excellent defender. Couldn't be more pleased after his horrendous start.
Newman has been everything we could hope from him.
Simpson started slowly, but has finished the year as well as anyone could hope.
Thomas: I wish we were keeping Daisy on his form this year. However, we are hoping for fitness and improvement from our other small-mid defenders.
Walsh has been everything we could hope for.
Murphy looks like he still has a few years in the tank.

Biggest disappoint(s) when compared to pre season expectations: Dow, Cuningham (the King Of Cameos), Fisher, Garlett, Pickett, Kennedy, Lang, McGovern (until fitter!!!!), Polson.     Northern Blues.
I have to agree. I was hoping from more from all of these guys.
Dow: Paddy hasn't gone forward, if anything he has gone backwards. He need the right sort of pre-season to get his body right and he needs to work on his kicking and his defensive running.
Cuningham needs to get that bit fitter, as he showed that he has what it takes.
Fisher has gone backwards. He needs to work on his strength and stamina and his kicking.
Garlett is unlikely to get a chance to improve. We need the list space.
Pickett is another huge disappointment, but his body wasn't capable of the AFL load.
Kennedy is looking better as a forward than as a midfielder, but he needs to work on his speed and fitness. He is too slow to do the job he is trying to do.
Lang is lucky if he remains on our list.
McGovern is likely to improve, if he can stay injury free.
Polson is now worrying me where I was not so worried last year. He isn't getting enough of the ball and he isn't stopping his opponents getting the ball. That leaves him in a very precarious position.
Northern Blues: If there was one area I was expecting real improvement in this season, this was it. Granted we had a couple of young speculative picks going around, but we also kept the good ex-AFL players from last year and added a couple of others. However, all of them went backwards. Our midfield went backwards, even though we often had a winning ruck. We were wracked with injuries again (when will it be otherwise?), and our youngsters didn't set the world on fire.
In fact, I find it difficult to find many positives with the NBs.
I have been generally satisfied with the coaching staff until now, but having so many guys who looked promising last year go backwards is the exact wrong thing to happen.

Surprise packet(s): Newman, Gibbons, Casboult, Walsh.

DCMs: Garlett, Lang, Macreadie, Polson.
These guys are under a lot of pressure. I do not believe all of them will survive this cull. Maybe not even half of them, depending on how ruthless we are feeling.

Sign him up for more years, now: Cripps.

We need/get him/them: [color=lime green]Gun mid, gun small forward, our next top ruckman, more speed.[/color]

Off field:
Most encouraging activity/results: Membership and Member initiatives. Club’s involvement in community. Getting The Terrier to the club and now the Hawthorn psychologist as well. DT appointment.
I agree.

Biggest disappointment (s): Bolton’s performance and subsequent removal & Board slow to react to BBs removal. Dow and Fisher failing to improve as hoped/expected. Obviously, injuries to key personnel. Judd embarrassing the club with foolish and ill-considered public comments. :(  :(  :(

We need/get him/her/them: New coach for the Northern Blues, DT gets the assistants he wants. More involvement from past champs… should be regular visitors to the club.

2020

Acceptable minimum wins: 11.
I would like to say we will win more, but with the usual (ordinary) draw, the (usual) ordinary umpiring, and no certainty of recruiting what we need, I would not want to put the bar any higher.

Players MUST: start well and stop periods in games where we concede 4-7 unanswered goals. Profound concentration and on-field leadership and discipline improvement. Cease to be the nice guys of the competition... time for some ruthlessness.  >:D  >:D  >:D

Player(s) who MUST improve: Cuningham, Dow, Fisher, McGovern, McKay’s kicking & thinking, Setterfield, Charlie Curnow's decision making.

(crystal ball time) Player(s) who will surprise with their improvement: Deluca, McGovern, Setterfield. I can pray.

Most looking forward to beating: Richmond, Geelong, Sydney and Hawthorn.

(crystal ball again) Our ladder position will be: mid range. We may challenge if we can get the personnel we need. We may do better if we get the sort of run with injuries that Brisbane has had this year.

AFL should: Prevent marquee players changing clubs to top 8 clubs. 'Equalization is happening' says Gil… lying pr1ck, I say.
I'm inclined to agree. The AFL have been making the problem worse rather than better and need to adjust the free agency issues.
The AFL also needs to address the issue of the umpiring. We cannot go on with 20 - 25% of frees being 'wrong'.
The AFL also has to start considering a 3rd Melbourne venue (Not Geelong: that hole has had millions wasted on it and it still can't cover any sort of crowd.) Princes Park is the obvious one, not just because we play there. There are options for crowd movement that the AFL could arrange for a supportive government to supply. Not some of the pipe-dreams that some others have put out: various club presidents should not be allowed access to illegal chemicals before submitting such fantasies.
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McGovern showed just how important preseason is. Twice the player once he got his body right. I hope they all learn from that this preseason.

I just hope they all come back from the break ready to push for top 4 because that is my expectation.

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McGovern showed just how important preseason is. Twice the player once he got his body right. I hope they all learn from that this preseason.

I just hope they all come back from the break ready to push for top 4 because that is my expectation.

he's a very different looking beast when fit.  Wasn't his fault he hurt (broke?) his back early on.  struggled ever since.  what he showed in the last 2 games was what we wanted to see from him.  very good speed and leap, and probably our best set shot for goal.  a full preseason with hopefully all the important players getting through will make a big difference next year. Luv the Gov.

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Capt CRASH, "The AFL have been making the problem worse rather than better and need to adjust the free agency issues."

Well said, Captain.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Weiters has had a solid year, ditto Levi? Totally agree, re Weiters (should have included him in most consistent, above). Levi much better as a defender but do we need 3 tall defenders?? Can't see Levi being happy with playing in the NBs and called up when Weiters or Jones goes down. Enough talls up forward already.

SPS too once moved back. Agree, seems to have found a niche and is bloody good... probably helped move Daisy on.

Dow and Fisher the biggest negatives for me (nb. O"Brien is a  total miss imo - seemed to have 'jobs' which may have seen him sacrifice his natural game... showed promising glimpses, like Dow, expecting much more next year)
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Levi would be a good fit at GWS - might be used as a pawn in the get the Rabbit game?

Or similarly, Papley et al. from Sydvegas. Or Martin from GC.
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Levi is a walk up start for us whilst Kreuzer is our number 1 ruckman.

Particularly with his reversal of form over the last 12 months.

Come on you Blue FLAGGERS!!

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AFL should: Prevent marquee players changing clubs to top 8 clubs. 'Equalization is happening' says Gil… lying pr1ck, I say.
I'm inclined to agree. The AFL have been making the problem worse rather than better and need to adjust the free agency issues.


It's a great idea Crash but....
They've let the Free Agency Genie out of bottle and it will be hard to put it back.
I cant see the AFLPA agreeing to that restriction....and it would probably not survive a 'restraint of trade' action.

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Levi is a walk up start for us whilst Kreuzer is our number 1 ruckman.

Particularly with his reversal of form over the last 12 months.

Not the point. If he wants to go to guarantee more game time, go he will.
Finals, then 4 in a row!