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NBs 2020

Tough start to the coming year for the NBs losing Fisher and Anderson to WA.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Tough start to the coming year for the NBs losing Fisher and Anderson to WA.
Indeed. Not quite the start we were looking for.  Fisher and Anderson (and Deven Costigan) have been signed by Swan Districts and will be significant losses. Jesse Palmer has gone to Collingwood (VFL) after an ordinary season in 2019.

However, there have been some gains:
[1] Will Lewis (Dandenong Stingrays) However, as he has also been registered as a 19 y.o. for the Stingrays, I wonder how many games he will actually play ...
[2] Jordan Cunico (Geelong) At 25 Cunico appears to be a decent acquisition with hopes that a good year will see on the Carlton list. Not sure he has what it takes to be a senior Blue, but he should improve the NB midfield.
[3] Cody Hirst (Sydney) Hirst is the only other guy (other than you know who) who was selected at the mid year draft and not retained. He was playing very good football in Vic before he was selected. He probably feels he has something to prove.
[4] Joe Richards (Wangaratta) Richards is a 2 time B & F in the Ovens and Murray league. Otherwise, I don't know much about him.
[5] Tim Jones Jones has been with the NB's before and was a decent contributor.
[6] Jake Bartholomaus (NEAFL) Jake has been very impressive in the NEAFL. Hopefully he can do something similar for the NB's.

No word about many of the others, although Kye Quirk will be an NB in 2020 and a few other youngsters (Wheeler and Oscar White). Quite a number of NB's have been training with the AFL Blues, including Tom Wilson (who we really missed last year).

With the younger AFL lads, the NB's should have a decent midfield this year.
Live Long and Prosper!

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I just wish it was a big easier to find out who is on our horizon. Thee habit of the NB's is to only finalize the list just before the season starts. However, I am much happier that the NB website does indicate when someone is coming in. It was only a few years back where there was NO information until the season was starting. That frustrated me a large amount.
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Facebook has been doing better in this domain of late.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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We are badly hampered by the fact that the NBs don't seem to be able to recruit/keep quality mature players.  The non-Carlton part of the NB list seems to be full of try-hards and journeymen that give minimal quality support to the younger Blues who travel through there.  You only need to look at what Hawthorn does with Box Hill (eg bringing in Deledio this year) which seems to fast-track development of their younger brigade. 

If Carlton's $$ books are now looking so rosy, perhaps we could invest a few bucks at Cramer St. so we can get some better returns on the mid-range young players who come to our club and then leave after two years with little to show for it. 
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

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Hit nail head. Flush.

As a development side,  the NBs are a fail.

As a standalone club,  with the aim of winning flags,  they are also a fail.

So what is their purpose,  and why aren't they being resourced and funded accordingly?

Every strong club at AFL level is strong at the second tier.   The Muppet's that run CFC can't seem to grasp that singular basic fact.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Hit nail head. Flush.

As a development side,  the NBs are a fail.

As a standalone club,  with the aim of winning flags,  they are also a fail.

So what is their purpose,  and why aren't they being resourced and funded accordingly?

Every strong club at AFL level is strong at the second tier.   The Muppet's that run CFC can't seem to grasp that singular basic fact.

Agree with this, Northern should be a focus or a standalone team.

Why do we not put in place a plan to win the VFL premiership? Would that not be beneficial for the development of a young list? Why would we not offer Daisy Thomas a guaranteed contract on the supplemental list (rookie or alike), and have him as a playing line coach for Northern?  We should be offering contract deals in the same way that Williamstown does for ex-AFL players to strengthen our list.

Our kids should be good enough to displace them or have to tough it out for a spot. If they cannot, then they are not going to be long term players anyway.

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Why would we not offer Daisy Thomas a guaranteed contract on the supplemental list (rookie or alike), and have him as a playing line coach for Northern?
If the rumored reasons for Daisy sacking are true they aren't going to put him in charge of teenagers!

But I think Daisy would make an extraordinary mentor for the more senior types, just as Fev might be such a figure!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Quote from: spf – on
Agree with this, Northern should be a focus or a standalone team.

Why do we not put in place a plan to win the VFL premiership? Would that not be beneficial for the development of a young list? Why would we not offer Daisy Thomas a guaranteed contract on the supplemental list (rookie or alike), and have him as a playing line coach for Northern?  We should be offering contract deals in the same way that Williamstown does for ex-AFL players to strengthen our list.

Our kids should be good enough to displace them or have to tough it out for a spot. If they cannot, then they are not going to be long term players anyway.

I suspect that the stricter VFL salary cap rules will make it harder to retain experienced players.  With that qualification, I have often wondered why the NBs haven’t signed up a couple of our delisted players; the likes of Kerridge, Lamb, Daisy, Buckley, etc would provide the NBs’ playing group with a core of mature, hardened players.  That should help the development of our youngsters and make the NBs a truly competitive outfit.
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I suspect that the stricter VFL salary cap rules will make it harder to retain experienced players.  With that qualification, I have often wondered why the NBs haven’t signed up a couple of our delisted players; the likes of Kerridge, Lamb, Daisy, Buckley, etc would provide the NBs’ playing group with a core of mature, hardened players.  That should help the development of our youngsters and make the NBs a truly competitive outfit.

Do it I say. For what reason have we not done this already? Put a plan in place, and aim to play finals every year here on in, with a premiership in the next three years.

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I think our departing senior players might not all be worth retaining.  Particularly if they can earn more coin elsewhere.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Quote from: Thryleon – on
I think our departing senior players might not all be worth retaining.  Particularly if they can earn more coin elsewhere.
This is a point we do have to consider. However, I am sure we can find a place for someone who sets the right attitude on the field. This is one of the reasons Daisy comes into the equation: whatever issues he has off the field (and he has more than he ever let on when he was playing), he is a professional and a desperado on the park.

Not sure what his plans are now, but his body would not probably be in shape for a good VFL season.

I do believe that Dylan Buckley may play for the NB's in the future, but not this year. He has stated that he is taking a year off. In what condition he may be in 2021 is an interesting question.
Live Long and Prosper!

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I see a recipe for division to be honest.

The guys we keep around need to be a specific type, and you are limited to very few players who are happy to transition into "post AFL" footy.

Daisy was doing his best to remain a player for 2020. This automatically rules him out of the equation, because you are asking him to maintain his physical capabilities as a mentor, and take a back seat from a team he could arguably play for to help develop the next generation.

Unless he is fully on board to do that, and wants to transition into coaching, then its likely to become a divisive situation IMHO.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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If we want sustained success for our VFL team, then we should be looking at what the other successful VFL clubs have been doing. How does Williamstown do it? What about Box Hill?

We need to be serious about recruiting to win the competition, which will aid our development anyway.

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Over the last 3 seasons the 'name' recruits have started slowly, to pick up significantly as the season goes on. The only exception to this pattern has been O'Shea, who was brilliant from day 1. I wonder where he is playing now. He was too good for the VFL but not good enough for the AFL.
Live Long and Prosper!