Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #1155 – August 20, 2020, 01:34:39 pm Quote from: Gointocarlton – on August 20, 2020, 12:52:45 pmEB it will not happen here, the drug will to be tested as bullet proof for safety and efficacy, not so sure about or Russian friends though.Quote from: Gointocarlton – on August 20, 2020, 12:52:45 pmEB it will not happen here, the drug will to be tested as bullet proof for safety and efficacy, not so sure about or Russian friends though.GTC, If there wasnt a whole economy and political landscape riding on it I would believe that but its more than just a health issue now and I'm not so sure the balance is 100% weighted to the safety of the masses.When I was a kid the Indian Govt went on a sterilization program to keep the population in check, think they might even given away free transistor radios if you had yourself done, lot of people got ill after the procedures both men and women, whole thing was a failure and mess....if ScoMo starts offering Ipods with every jab then run... Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #1156 – August 20, 2020, 01:43:29 pm Get vaccinated and receive a free Bombers membership. Whatever it takes! 😇 Quote Selected 3 Likes
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #1157 – August 20, 2020, 01:58:46 pm Quote from: LP – on August 20, 2020, 12:56:08 pmWe can't even get the glass vials to hold the stuff in, there is a global shortage as a couple of big European companies bought up all the critical sand and glass supplies when COVID broke. Vials are made from a special high purity form of Pyrex, and the sand comes from just one or two fresh water locations on earth.Brewing a batch is the least of the issues!Also, 25 million isn't likely to be the number, most vaccines take one dose with one or two boosters if they are lifelong immunisation. If not lifelong you need 25 million every COVID season or a couple of times per year! So just to get started it's probably 50 million, and then there are issues about how you store, transport and administer 50 million does, it's not a trivial problem. For example, after months and months or availability we've still only COVID tested a couple of million! (Actually it's about 4M now, after six months!)LP, they can make it, they are ready to go (when its ready). Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #1158 – August 20, 2020, 02:54:01 pm Quote from: LP – on August 20, 2020, 12:56:08 pmBrewing a batch is the least of the issues!To say nothing about the jabs administration and the back office paperwork. Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #1159 – August 20, 2020, 04:55:21 pm Quote from: cookie2 – on August 20, 2020, 01:43:29 pmGet vaccinated and receive a free Bombers membership. Whatever it takes! 😇Priceless. 🤣 🤣 Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #1160 – August 20, 2020, 05:06:06 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on August 20, 2020, 01:34:39 pmGTC, If there wasnt a whole economy and political landscape riding on it I would believe that but its more than just a health issue now and I'm not so sure the balance is 100% weighted to the safety of the masses.When I was a kid the Indian Govt went on a sterilization program to keep the population in check, think they might even given away free transistor radios if you had yourself done, lot of people got ill after the procedures both men and women, whole thing was a failure and mess....if ScoMo starts offering Ipods with every jab then run...The Spotted One will likely know more about this than I do but I know many medications, including psychopharmacology, have an an accepted 'error or adverse reaction' %, generally <5%. Recalling again my Naval vaccination experience (way back when ships were wood and men were steel... sorry, an old Navy gag) you'd get in a line of around a hundred blokes and just about always 1 or two blokes would get really crook and end up not being accepted. The TB was a funny vaccine... first you had a test under the skin of your forearm and if it reacted with a watery blister (few days later) that was a good response so you were then swabbed with the vaccine on the upper arm which was then hit numerous times with a needle. Sure enough a big scabby sore came up and when it healed you had this pock mark on your upper arm about the size of a one cent coin... a la TB immune. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #1161 – August 20, 2020, 05:13:36 pm Quote from: Gointocarlton – on August 20, 2020, 01:58:46 pmLP, they can make it, they are ready to go (when its ready).Who do you know that works for CSL? Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #1162 – August 20, 2020, 05:35:32 pm Quote from: kruddler – on August 20, 2020, 05:13:36 pmWho do you know that works for CSL?A few. Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #1163 – August 20, 2020, 06:59:44 pm Quote from: Gointocarlton – on August 20, 2020, 05:35:32 pmA few.How high up are we talking? What level?My mrs works there and so do a few friends we know. Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #1164 – August 20, 2020, 07:47:04 pm Quote from: kruddler – on August 20, 2020, 06:59:44 pmHow high up are we talking? What level?My mrs works there and so do a few friends we know.Mainly project people and some people in manufacturing. Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #1165 – August 20, 2020, 08:39:49 pm If CSL cant make enough numbers then Pfizer will supply the rest IMO, they have been in talks with the Aus govt after signing a big agreement with Trump and I'd expect production to be staggered anyway with vulnerable folk and health care workers 1st cab off the rank. With what we saw with Qantas today looking at 4b dollar loss next year and companies reporting badly the pressure is on to get a vaccine and a lot of good will be shown by all countries to get the western world in particular up and running. Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #1166 – August 20, 2020, 08:57:41 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on August 20, 2020, 08:39:49 pmIf CSL cant make enough numbers then Pfizer will supply the rest IMO, they have been in talks with the Aus govt after signing a big agreement with Trump and I'd expect production to be staggered anyway with vulnerable folk and health care workers 1st cab off the rank. With what we saw with Qantas today looking at 4b dollar loss next year and companies reporting badly the pressure is on to get a vaccine and a lot of good will be shown by all countries to get the western world in particular up and running.You should listen to the link i posted earlier.Everyone will join in together and make it together regardless of who comes up with the winning vaccine. Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #1167 – August 21, 2020, 10:12:16 am Quote from: kruddler – on August 20, 2020, 08:57:41 pmYou should listen to the link i posted earlier.Everyone will join in together and make it together regardless of who comes up with the winning vaccine.This spirit of co-operation -- so Aussie -- warms the cockles... now let's see it put into action and inspire many other corporates to see the bigger picture, the inspiring picture of 'the common good.' Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #1168 – August 21, 2020, 03:45:46 pm Quote from: Baggers – on August 21, 2020, 10:12:16 amThis spirit of co-operation -- so Aussie -- warms the cockles... now let's see it put into action and inspire many other corporates to see the bigger picture, the inspiring picture of 'the common good.'Thats actually a worldwide thing, not an aussie thing.Seeing what this virus is doing to economies, companies know they are better off working together and killing this thing so they can go back to normal where they can ALL make more money. Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #1169 – August 21, 2020, 05:12:52 pm Quote from: kruddler – on August 21, 2020, 03:45:46 pmThats actually a worldwide thing, not an aussie thing.Seeing what this virus is doing to economies, companies know they are better off working together and killing this thing so they can go back to normal where they can ALL make more money.Let me believe it was led by our example... Quote Selected