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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4920 –
Quote from: Mav – on
I’m sure when a few businesses get closed down, the message will get around.
It's a perspective problem, there will be some businesses that profit from it as well and for many that lure is no different than a Tattersalls jackpot or The Daily Quaddie!

Gambling addiction is real, and it doesn't just apply to betting it applies to any risk, and the different risks taken are just other manifestations of the same fundamental behaviour!

It's why when you debate this issue on here with certain individuals you get the feeling they suffer from punters lament!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4921 –
By the way, how often in the last few years have you been in a pub or restaurant when someone has been happily puffing away on a cigarette inside? The rarity of such incidents isn’t just due to mindless enforcement of the law. Fact is non-smokers had no great desire to be breathing in a cloud of smoke just to humour a few people who felt they had the right to inflict their habit on others. Owners of restaurants realised they’d lose business if they didn’t enforce the law.

If there is a vaccine passport and it’s obvious the owners of a restaurant blow off that scheme, rest assured they’ll lose customers who don’t want to be seated in a room with the unvaccinated. There was a restaurant around where I live which closed down when they opened up for anti-lockdown protesters in defiance of restrictions. Though there were people who supported the actions of the owners, there were many who made it clear that they would never return to the restaurant. The owners bowed to the inevitable and announced they were closing for good.

Don’t underestimate how much businesses have to lose if the vaccinated believe their safety isn’t of great concern to the owners.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4922 –
Quote from: Mav – on
By the way, how often in the last few years have you been in a pub or restaurant when someone has been happily puffing away on a cigarette inside? The rarity of such incidents isn’t just due to mindless enforcement of the law. Fact is non-smokers had no great desire to be breathing in a cloud of smoke just to humour a few people who felt they had the right to inflict their habit on others. Owners of restaurants realised they’d lose business if they didn’t enforce the law.

If there is a vaccine passport and it’s obvious the owners of a restaurant blow off that scheme, rest assured they’ll lose customers who don’t want to be seated in a room with the unvaccinated. There was a restaurant around where I live which closed down when they opened up for anti-lockdown protesters in defiance of restrictions. Though there were people who supported the actions of the owners, there were many who made it clear that they would never return to the restaurant. The owners bowed to the inevitable and announced they were closing for good.

Don’t underestimate how much businesses have to lose if the vaccinated believe their safety isn’t of great concern to the owners.

As usual you have it ass about.

The tide is turning.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4923 –
Quote from: LP – on
Read these figures today, not sure if that relates to the nurse I heard earlier.Youth don't get it!

There is no need for a tautology to explain that phrase. :o


Staggers me that a seriously bright chap like you focuses on 'case' numbers...

Perhaps I got it wrong....
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4925 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
Staggers me that a seriously bright chap like you focuses on 'case' numbers...

Perhaps I got it wrong....
Yes, well ignoring the usual "Ad Hominem, go the man" approach.

The counts might not be relevant, but the changing age profile / distribution certainly is! ;)
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4926 –
Typically our road map out always had a degree of cloudiness about it. Whilst many believe the key to getting freedoms back lies in vaccination levels ‘I can’t recall’ Dan threw in a new term today which is typical in his handling of this.

He added in lockdowns will not only be determined by vaccination rates but also but hospital admissions. Of course he would never lock himself into disclosing a figure we can’t exceed or some type of clear number. He is too smart for that transparency.  It makes sense too but he never said that when he was dangling the carrot of freedom to those who took the vaccination did he. Of course he didn’t.

Knew this was coming and that he would find a way to continue locking up the state (but also keep construction going of course!) he just needed to introduce something to give him an out and he has it now and who can argue with it.

‘I can’t recall’ Dan is a the absolute master of having a way to change the goal posts without changing the goal posts.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4927 –
Goal posts don’t exist. Pandemics don’t equal footy games.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4928 –
Quote from: Mav – on
Goal posts don’t exist. Pandemics don’t equal footy games.

Oh is that the reason.  I also hear this pandemic has a wide range of symptoms even to those who didn’t contract it.

Amnesia being a common one.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4929 –
Quote from: shawny – on
‘I can’t recall’ Dan is a the absolute master of having a way to change the goal posts without changing the goal posts.

He is a deceitful lying bast@rd.  They're the "nice" things I can say about him.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4930 –
Construction is only operating at 25% of what they say they need which is of course 4 times the usual number.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4932 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Construction is only operating at 25% of what they say they need which is of course 4 times the usual number.

Exactly. Its so predicable how this government excludes construction from the restrictions yet retail sectors that most would trust more to follow strict rules about density and social distancing  masks etc have been closed for majority of this pandemic leaving the majority of them now beyond repair and unlikely to reopen.

Same goes for hospitality. That industry is almost  never going to return. Well definitely won’t in our lifetime.

Heard the City and Lygon st are 2 areas where 70% of shops have for lease signs in windows.

All while majority of the construction sector is still ploughing on.

Double standards with the usual union pull overriding a balanced and fair go for all sectors.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4933 –
So Covid has killed the hospitality sector. Sheep happens in a pandemic.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4934 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Construction is only operating at 25% of what they say they need which is of course 4 times the usual number.
I've family, friends and associates in the building industry.

They aren't really constrained by the lockdown, they are constrained by the lack of available materials. That is the main reason they are working at reduced capacity, they would be flat out on new builds if they could get materials. Home renovations and small refurbishments won't help as the small jobs are at the very back of the queue for obtaining supplies, and changing the lockdown state won't fix that problem. It's the lack of material supply from overseas that is the problem, there are local suppliers, but the big boys have sucked up all the local materials at a premium price the bulk of the industry won't or can't pay!

I've another associate that is a hardware importer, mostly fixtures and fittings(furniture) for doors and windows, etc., etc.. They have containers and containers of stuff stuck somewhere between China and Australia, typically Singapore or Hong Kong, waiting for ships to be released from quarantine. They are so desperate they have started having containers unpacked by hand and sending urgent quantities by air, this drives the cost through the roof so end users buy less and less.

The next thing that will happen is that the small builders on fixed contracts are going go belly up, because they are stuck on terms they can no longer meet, and changes to the lockdown do nothing to help them.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"