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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #525 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Hopefully huge resources will be ploughed into relentless research and more fckn hospital beds so WHEN the next pandemic arrives, we are well resourced and prepared to deal with ALL the resultant illnesses AND ensuring the economic operation of the nation is minimally impacted!!!
Unfortunately Baggers I think the complacency will return, preventing it is a bit like immunity, you need a regular vaccination.

Then you also have to consider the destructive role of blokes like Trump, who for example is pointing the finger at pretty much everybody else, clearly no lesson learned!

On the personal side of things, glad to hear you're able to work your way through that stuff and that you are willing to share, the shared message is critical.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"
 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #526 –
There's one saving grace.  The exposure of the U.N. WHO and the fork tongued Chinese regime.

The world won't be quite the same ever again.  It's the frontline medical teams my heart goes out to right across the planet.  There's a sobering lesson in that. 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #527 –
Whatever imperfections those two organizations may have pale into insignificance when compared to the failures of capitalism.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #528 –
Quote from: capcom – on
There's one saving grace.  The exposure of the U.N. WHO and the fork tongued Chinese regime.

The world won't be quite the same ever again.  It's the frontline medical teams my heart goes out to right across the planet.  There's a sobering lesson in that.
Ignoring the politics of funding, which is clearly corrupt, I was interested to hear a report by the BBC a couple of weeks back that pointed the finger at sovereign states for going rogue and not implementing the WHO recommendations. The BBC claim was that a reversion to self-preservation mode by sovereign states caused the problem to rapidly become much worse than it should have been. Not just China in trying to close down reporting, but all countries that stupidly thought closing the borders would solve the problem. The WHO's pre-established policy was basically defined as act quickly locally and send help quickly globally, none of it happened, it was willful global denial and something we should all now be very familiar with given we are gifted tweets and tweets of it almost hourly!

btw., That report said the crap is yet to hit the fan, 3rd world African and SE Asian nations are barely getting started in this crisis and if things don't change from June onward it will be pretty ordinary.

As for capitalism/commercialism, it looks like it's both the cause and the cure, are we surprised? Just take a look at how many rubbish "COVID-19 Test Kits" and "N95 Masks" are being returned, or have attempted to be returned, to various profiteering entities in recent weeks. Hard to see trust being restored in the short term, if ever.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #529 –
LP.  The W.H.O. were never in a position to dictate to anyone and neither should they given their defence of china's decision to re-open wet markets.  This isn't the one world order they'd like to institute.  But that said, I ignore anything from the U.N. and have done for decades.  I'm not about to change my opinion.  Ever.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #530 –
Quote from: capcom – on
LP.  The W.H.O. were never in a position to dictate to anyone and neither should they given their defence of china's decision to re-open wet markets.  This isn't the one world order they'd like to institute.  But that said, I ignore anything from the U.N. and have done for decades.  I'm not about to change my opinion.  Ever.
I don't know Capcom, I don't think the WHO were dictating, they are guidelines and recommendations.

I suspect there are problems with bureaucracy like there are with capitalism or communism.

Lots of the front line people work for the WHO or UN, I don't think it's fair to taint those individuals by association because of a general perception of the institution, or because of some of it's corrupt members, some of the warnings the front line individuals offered go back more than a decade and became WHO or UN policy.

In times like this anarchy tends to rise up, it's even worse!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #531 –
Quote from: capcom – on
There's one saving grace.  The exposure of the U.N. WHO and the fork tongued Chinese regime.

The world won't be quite the same ever again.  It's the frontline medical teams my heart goes out to right across the planet.  There's a sobering lesson in that. 

Absolutely. Many will learn that they like working from home.

China and the WHO have lost the little credibility they had. They'll both be treated from hereon with suspicion and doubt. WHO is supposed to be at the frontline of protecting the global population... not covering China's @rse.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #532 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Whatever imperfections those two organizations may have pale into insignificance when compared to the failures of capitalism.

Aint that the truth. Just look, for one example, at how pathetic capitalism is at public health (privatisation!!!!! FO)... but they've learned an important lesson, that a sick population in any significant number will be unable to work and that'll cost them. Remember, capitalism, were it a living organism would be totally sociopathic - people don't matter, numbers and control, do.

And it is beginning to become blatantly obvious to so many that it is the principles and strategies of socialism and 'welfare state' attitudes and commitment that are rescuing the population... and capitalism!!!!
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #533 –
Bit of inside medical info....ER depts in Victoria very quiet, and talk of immunity passports ie people being tested for Covid19 antibodies and then being issued with a certificate if positive which allows them to travel and do most normal activities.
Begs the question if you dont have antibodies?....would people self contaminate or would there be controlled clinical programs where you would be forced to self isolate again, dont see how this would work without high risk of breakout spreads with people not going the controlled route.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #535 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
An attention seeking Sam Newman trying to stay relevant in todays different world.....and failing.
https://au.sports.yahoo.com/afl-2020-sam-newman-protests-golf-ban-victoria-parliament-034950098.html


Well as much as I think Newman is the ultimate, irrelevant c0ckhead... he has a point re common sense. The entire goal of Stage 3 is to prevent transmission of C-9 from person to person. If he and a mate are out playing golf, so what... others are allowed to exercise. And you never know, a storm could brew and a bolt of lightning might hit and cook Newman's little brain... see, there's always a silver lining (of course I'm kidding, I wouldn't wish harm on he or anyone... though if the Caddyshack gopher leapt out of a hole and bit him on the @rse... 😁 )
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #536 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Well as much as I think Newman is the ultimate, irrelevant c0ckhead... he has a point re common sense. The entire goal of Stage 3 is to prevent transmission of C-9 from person to person. If he and a mate are out playing golf, so what... others are allowed to exercise. And you never know, a storm could brew and a bolt of lightning might hit and cook Newman's little brain... see, there's always a silver lining (of course I'm kidding, I wouldn't wish harm on he or anyone... though if the Caddyshack gopher leapt out of a hole and bit him on the @rse... 😁 )
See I like the older fellas, if you really listen to them, more often than not they make a lot of sense. I was listening to Blighty being interviewed today on SEN about changes to the game. If you listened to him, he just sounded calm and logical. Some of these younger whipper snappers are abit to shoot from the hip mofos. You know the type, Ready, Fire, Aim. Sam can be the biggest DH under the sun when he tries to be funny or gets on his high horse about stuff he knows SFA about. But when he talks footy, in particular Ruckwork, he is worth listening to I reckon. For the record, some of the things Blighty suggested:
1. List size changes - no
2. Shorter seasons, games - no
3. 16 a side - no
4. Night GF - no, his reason was players play better during the day, less glare and conditions are better for marking
He suggested the following re making the game quicker
- Fewer rotations
- Backwards kicks are play on
- min kick distance 20m
- Last touch out of bounds, free kick to the other mob
There might have been some other things, can't remember.
No none of the above is ground breaking, but when you listen to how it was delivered, it made all the difference.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #537 –
re: Carnival cruises......have offered full refunds to customers or a 200% credit....99% of customers have taken the credit option.
Bit surprising those stats for me but clearly the majority of people intend to travel again as soon as they can and that not even a pandemic can spook travellers.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #538 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
re: Carnival cruises......have offered full refunds to customers or a 200% credit....99% of customers have taken the credit option.
Bit surprising those stats for me but clearly the majority of people intend to travel again as soon as they can and that not even a pandemic can spook travellers.

Still one of the best ways to travel and holiday... out on the oggun (ocean).
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #539 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
re: Carnival cruises......have offered full refunds to customers or a 200% credit....99% of customers have taken the credit option.
Bit surprising those stats for me but clearly the majority of people intend to travel again as soon as they can and that not even a pandemic can spook travellers.
I wouldn't have gone on a cruise if you paid me even before this debacle. Absolutely less chance now, if it were up to me I'd scuttle the lot of the disease ridden flow petri dishes.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership