Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #2520 – March 24, 2021, 11:13:37 am Quote from: Gointocarlton – on March 23, 2021, 12:32:42 pmDone, official from 6pm FridThink you will find a lot of medical clinics, allied professionals will still want mask wearing for the cooler months not just for Covid but for the normal flu strains etc. They do seem to have proved effective in curbing spread and I think we havent seen the last of them. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #2521 – March 24, 2021, 11:17:39 am Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on March 24, 2021, 11:13:37 amThink you will find a lot of medical clinics, allied professionals will still want mask wearing for the cooler months not just for Covid but for the normal flu strains etc. They do seem to have proved effective in curbing spread and I think we havent seen the last of them.And that's fair enough also, I will have no hesitation wearing a mask when asked to in a particular setting. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #2522 – March 24, 2021, 11:34:18 am Quote from: Gointocarlton – on March 24, 2021, 11:17:39 amAnd that's fair enough also, I will have no hesitation wearing a mask when asked to in a particular setting.I find them useful when robbing banks, servos etc. Quote Selected 3 Likes
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #2523 – March 24, 2021, 12:11:31 pm Quote from: cookie2 – on March 24, 2021, 11:34:18 amI find them useful when robbing banks, servos etc.When you walk into a servo or shop wearing sunnies, baseball cap and mask (as I often do), I cant help but say to myself "this bloke thinks Im here to roll the joint". Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #2524 – March 24, 2021, 01:42:27 pm More signs of politics in this vaccine saga, Europe has effectively shut off supply, Australia will go exclusively with it's home grown AstraZeneca version.What a change a week or so ago AstraZeneca was poison in Europe and nobody wanted it, now it's more precious than gold!Actions expose the folly of words! Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #2525 – March 24, 2021, 02:16:52 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on March 24, 2021, 11:13:37 amThink you will find a lot of medical clinics, allied professionals will still want mask wearing for the cooler months not just for Covid but for the normal flu strains etc. They do seem to have proved effective in curbing spread and I think we havent seen the last of them.Can't agree EB1 as there is zero science that supports the proposition that masks do anything (good).To digress, the whole 'fear', lockdowns etc. is based on the concoction of asymptomatic spread.Otherwise, why wouldn't you just quarantine the symptomatic and sick?A person has no symptoms and no illness = next to no viral load.....this is basic stuff. And widely accepted by the WHO, even into 2020. Fauci too, for that matter.You accept that (asymptomatic spread) is BS - which again studies show it is (or so remote as to be a statistical irrelance), the wheels of the whole things fall off.Completely. Quote Selected Last Edit: March 24, 2021, 03:22:29 pm by flyboy77 1 Likes
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #2526 – March 24, 2021, 03:59:03 pm Quote from: LP – on March 24, 2021, 01:42:27 pmMore signs of politics in this vaccine saga, Europe has effectively shut off supply, Australia will go exclusively with it's home grown AstraZeneca version.What a change a week or so ago AstraZeneca was poison in Europe and nobody wanted it, now it's more precious than gold!Actions expose the folly of words!The EU is run by buffoons. Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #2527 – March 24, 2021, 04:25:52 pm Quote from: flyboy77 – on March 24, 2021, 02:16:52 pmCan't agree EB1 as there is zero science that supports the proposition that masks do anything (good).Bullcrap!Science has completely confirmed masks reduce the transmission of droplet born virus by as much as 85%.It is true that the type of masks the general public wear might not stop aerosol based infection, primarily because the general public do not use disposable masks correctly, but that is a different thing altogether to droplet transmission. However, Dr Cath Noakes has noted controlling air turnover in buildings has a significant influence on reducing aerosol transmission. Aerosol transmission is considered to be very unlikely in open or well ventilated spaces. Interestingly preliminary indications are this Influenza season will be less prevalent primarily due the wider global use of masks in public spaces. Quote Selected Last Edit: March 24, 2021, 04:29:41 pm by LP
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #2528 – March 24, 2021, 04:54:25 pm Quote from: flyboy77 – on March 24, 2021, 02:16:52 pmCan't agree EB1 as there is zero science that supports the proposition that masks do anything (good).To digress, the whole 'fear', lockdowns etc. is based on the concoction of asymptomatic spread.Otherwise, why wouldn't you just quarantine the symptomatic and sick?A person has no symptoms and no illness = next to no viral load.....this is basic stuff. And widely accepted by the WHO, even into 2020. Fauci too, for that matter.You accept that (asymptomatic spread) is BS - which again studies show it is (or so remote as to be a statistical irrelance), the wheels of the whole things fall off.Completely.Science may or may not support it Fly but three medical services, GP, Optometrist and Podiatry we use in our area are all going to persist with mask wearing on their premises for the winter months as well as the 1.5m spacing in waiting rooms. Went to the RSPCA today at Burwood to pick up a script for the dog and they were also still in lockdown mode, no normal walk in entry, masks and seat spacing in the vet area and only one human allowed in with the vet.Have another appointment for the Dog next week and was told the same conditions are still applying.....Its obviously up to each individual business how they wish to proceed but with winter coming and vaccines still rolling out I think some will be more cautious than others and continue some of the same Covid precautionary practices. Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #2529 – March 24, 2021, 05:09:48 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on March 24, 2021, 04:54:25 pmScience may or may not support it Fly but three medical services, GP, Optometrist and Podiatry we use in our area are all going to persist with mask wearing on their premises for the winter months as well as the 1.5m spacing in waiting rooms. Went to the RSPCA today at Burwood to pick up a script for the dog and they were also still in lockdown mode, no normal walk in entry, masks and seat spacing in the vet area and only one human allowed in with the vet.Have another appointment for the Dog next week and was told the same conditions are still applying.....Its obviously up to each individual business how they wish to proceed but with winter coming and vaccines still rolling out I think some will be more cautious than others and continue some of the same Covid precautionary practices.Oh absolutely EB,, and I was always willing to wear one in a supermarket etc for the sake of others.... not trying to tell people what to do individually! Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #2530 – March 24, 2021, 05:46:25 pm Was in the local shopping centre today, wearing a mask, but there were plenty of people walking around barefaced and no one appeared to be that bothered about it! Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #2531 – March 24, 2021, 06:15:37 pm Quote from: LP – on March 17, 2021, 10:57:02 am As will ten of thousands of other health and allied health industry workers starting from last week, because now it is available when before it wasn't. She is getting the astra tomorrow. She asked for the Pfizer but was told it's reserved for doctors. Why? Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #2532 – March 24, 2021, 07:05:49 pm Quote from: flyboy77 – on March 24, 2021, 05:09:48 pmOh absolutely EB,, and I was always willing to wear one in a supermarket etc for the sake of others.... not trying to tell people what to do individually!So your cognitive dissonance won't let you accept fundamental, irrefutable principles of epidemiology....That's all you're really saying. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #2533 – March 24, 2021, 07:19:19 pm Quote from: madbluboy – on March 24, 2021, 06:15:37 pmShe is getting the astra tomorrow. She asked for the Pfizer but was told it's reserved for doctors. Why?Are they using Pfizer though? I was talking to my doctor about the different vaccines yesterday and he seems to think that it won’t be available for use and almost everyone will receive the astra vaccine. His reasoning behind that was because the Oxford vaccine has been around for a while as they started it when SARS first came out whereas according to him the Pfizer is a bit experimental. Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #2534 – March 24, 2021, 10:25:35 pm .. and sobering numbers to put it mildlyBrazil had 200,000 deaths cumulative up to Dec31st 2020. In less than three months, it's now close to 300,000!In March 2000, it was zero !!!! Quote Selected