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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3855 –
Quote from: Mav – on
Interesting that Gladys doesn’t bother to acknowledge deaths and commiserate with the loved ones. Dan Andrews always did. Quite a comparison and the media has noticed.

There have been 5 deaths in NSW so far but you wouldn’t know it. The Health Dept spox deals with the deaths and this means it gets less coverage. Unfortunately for Gladys, the media was never going to allow the death of the removalists’ mother to be swept under the carpet.

Actually, based on averages, there would have been circa 120 deaths in NSW yesterday.

But let's wet the bed over 1 death related to covid.....
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3856 –
The current estimate of global COVID-19 mortality is 6 million to 10 million extra deaths over the last 12 months. Web utilities only offer rough estimates based on algorithms, so you find something like World-o-Meter reporting lower figures like 4.1 million deaths. But the effects of Sars-CoV-2 are not linear, so these estimates can be easily out by 50% to 100%, but they are close enough not to be an order of magnitude out.

In reality, it's a very hard number to find so you only ever find a wide range being reported, and usually coming from NGOs.

Interestingly, because of the wide variance in bureaucratic capabilities in different regions, some countries might not report accurate figures at all, or perhaps lag behind by 12 to 18 months.

Then there are regions that deliberately under or over-report for political purposes.

We've less deaths locally because of the actions of our health officials and political leaders, not that they can't do better, but at least most of them have done something. We are also lucky to be in a region with access to vaccines, which deliver a massive diminishing effect on the death rate.

But as I've mentioned before, the real long term worry is the effects of long COVID-19, and there should be a significant emphasis on finding therapies and treatments for people who suffer debilitating effects. Of course if a sufferer ends up with significant organ damage, there will be no therapy. The question is yet to be answered how much vaccination diminishes long COVID, not enough time has passed.

I've heard it stated that if you look up and down a typical local suburban street, there is between 1 in 10 and 1 in 20 people that for whatever reason cannot be vaccinated, I suppose those who can be vaccinated are their defenders. It's sort of like the inverse of war times, when a percentage left our shores to defend liberty for the rest of us!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3857 –
Quote from: LP – on
The current estimate of global COVID-19 mortality is 6 million to 10 million extra deaths over the last 12 months.

Thanks to the non reporting from a certainly very detestable country to the north of us

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3858 –
Quote from: capcom – on
Thanks to the non reporting from a certainly very detestable country to the north of us
We just gave Indonesia one Billion dollars to help them with Covid. Same country who knock off all our fish and promote terrorism..
We also provide them with regular foreign aid as well apart from the Covid money..
Happy to help our little  Pacific Island friends, PNG etc but paying protection money to Indonesia is pathetic politics IMHO.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3860 –
Lockdown extended in Vic by 7 days. Had a laugh watching Dan Andrews dump on Sydney. He repeatedly stated that Covid was out of control in Sydney while advising that Victorians in Sydney can no longer return to Victoria as of right. They now need to seek permission to return on compassionate grounds if they don’t qualify under set exemptions.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3861 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Happy to help our little  Pacific Island friends, PNG etc but paying protection money to Indonesia is pathetic politics IMHO.
I think they are very strong Allies in the battle with China, we should work more closely with them.

I've travelled there a lot, not just as a tourist but for business and when I say a lot I mean enough to learn the rudimentary language. For most Indonesians China is sworn enemy, they'll happily take the Chinese money, but you should not confuse Bureaucratic pork barrelling with acceptance or compliance. If the government or authorities try to make them compliant under Chinese Directives there would be an uprising, most Indonesians see China as stealing their jobs.

The terrorism stuff comes mostly from the Western Provinces, West Sumatra, Medan, Aceh, and leaks across from Malaysia and the continent that houses many alleged radicals like the BMI. Nearly all the Bali bombing stuff has it's roots in Malaysia or further north.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3862 –
Just to clarify, I was referring to the scum in China.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3863 –
There’s an interesting theory China’s drive to be the World’s dominant superpower might be thwarted by, of all things, a population crisis. You’d think with a billion people, they’d have nothing to fear on that score. But the 1 child policy has led to a population that’s aging with little prospect of an influx of migrants to address this issue. Unfortunately, this might drive China to achieve global dominance before it needs to redirect its attention inwards.
 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3864 –
1.4 billion @Mav :)  A freakin' lot.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3865 –
Quote from: Mav – on
But the 1 child policy has led to a population that’s aging with little prospect of an influx of migrants to address this issue. Unfortunately, this might drive China to achieve global dominance before it needs to redirect its attention inwards.
They scrapped the 1 Child Policy 2016 but it didn't increase the birth-rate, now in May this year it's become one of each plus an extra.

However, they have a issue in that the youth are rapidly becoming westernised, and are likely to opt for wealth over family, I believe Sth Korea has a similar youth problem. The kids are growing up thinking an episode of "Friends" is normal, having a townhouse apartment with a 75" TV to yourself and eating in the café downstairs is what life is meant to be like!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3866 –
US media are labelling the Delta variant as The Pandemic of the Unvaccinated

In areas with low vaccination rates hospitalisation cases are up this week by as much as 40%, averaging 33% increase in states with less than 50% vaccination. If the Delta variant follows the same trend line of the other variants, US health officials have warned deaths will start rising about 2 to 3 weeks behind the hospitalisations.

In countries with high vaccination rates, places like Israel, the bulk of the rising new cases are coming from groups previously unvaccinated. In Israel's case this is the u16 age group who were previously excluded from getting Pfizer. Now they have lowered the age cut-off to 12.

This is the reality of Delta variant summed up in a picture, because it's infecting young people;



Anthony Church says farewell to his daughter through a pain of glass, she is in hospital ICU recovering from COVID-19.

Feck that for a joke, go and get vaccinated!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3867 –
Yep, time to bring in vaccine mandates & vaccine passports. I’ll help to hold down Flyboy so he can get his jab.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3868 –
Quote from: LP – on
US media are labelling the Delta variant as The Pandemic of the Unvaccinated

In areas with low vaccination rates hospitalisation cases are up this week by as much as 40%, averaging 33% increase in states with less than 50% vaccination. If the Delta variant follows the same trend line of the other variants, US health officials have warned deaths will start rising about 2 to 3 weeks behind the hospitalisations.

In countries with high vaccination rates, places like Israel, the bulk of the rising new cases are coming from groups previously unvaccinated. In Israel's case this is the u16 age group who were previously excluded from getting Pfizer. Now they have lowered the age cut-off to 12.

This is the reality of Delta variant summed up in a picture, because it's infecting young people;



Anthony Church says farewell to his daughter through a pain of glass, she is in hospital ICU recovering from COVID-19.

Feck that for a joke, go and get vaccinated!

Heart breaking to see that picture @LP ... how do you comfort that guy in such a scene

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3869 –
Apparently 40% of 0eople hospitalised with covid in the UK are double vaccinated.

Its not the shield people think it is.
"everything you know is wrong"

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