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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4590 –
The protest yesterday in Melbourne was illegal.  The opposition leader is in a dilemma.  Do I come out and condemn the protest and those that attended and lose more support among our supporter base?  Or do I stay silent, inferring support of an illegal activity.  If I support the action and am a leader, should I have attended?

As he has stayed silent, does he support the action?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4591 –
All the numbers about who is hospitalised and the death rates always ignore this fact - the hospitals themselves say they are stretch to capacity at the rate they’re getting now - we are seeing the Royal Melb have a case that infected a health care worker and now X amount of hospital staff have to quarantine for two weeks so now your workforce is down X amounts - health care professionals aren’t an infinite resource.  In fact I have read somewhere along the way that nurses are quitting in droves, sick and tired of watching people actively work against their own best interests and these poor workers then having to pay the price.

So we open up and let it rip - are you happy to gasp for oxygen at home or watch your loved one go through the same, because there’ll be no room for them? Add in if you’ve unfortunately got a medical condition that requires you to have Drs and nurses look after or your loved ones does, are you happy for them to have to make do at home with what you have on hand because there is no room/drs/nurses to help you?

Until we’re all vaccinated and they find a better way that this horrid thing can be treated from
Home, we can’t just let it rip.

Honestly - let’s listen to the medical people - I don’t see what they have to Gain - most are exhausted and just trying to do their job!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4592 –
Quote from: Micky0 – on
All the numbers about who is hospitalised and the death rates always ignore this fact - the hospitals themselves say they are stretch to capacity at the rate they’re getting now - we are seeing the Royal Melb have a case that infected a health care worker and now X amount of hospital staff have to quarantine for two weeks so now your workforce is down X amounts - health care professionals aren’t an infinite resource.  In fact I have read somewhere along the way that nurses are quitting in droves, sick and tired of watching people actively work against their own best interests and these poor workers then having to pay the price.

So we open up and let it rip - are you happy to gasp for oxygen at home or watch your loved one go through the same, because there’ll be no room for them? Add in if you’ve unfortunately got a medical condition that requires you to have Drs and nurses look after or your loved ones does, are you happy for them to have to make do at home with what you have on hand because there is no room/drs/nurses to help you?

Until we’re all vaccinated and they find a better way that this horrid thing can be treated from
Home, we can’t just let it rip.

Honestly - let’s listen to the medical people - I don’t see what they have to Gain - most are exhausted and just trying to do their job!
Re: the latter, shortage in ICU/ER nurses, they are leaving the job and the system is stretched..

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4593 –
A conservative radio host in the US fell for the Anti-Vax/Ivermectin idiocy: Conservative Radio Host Who Mocked Vaccines Dies of COVID-19, Daily Beast.

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He had said of the vaccine, “I have a very low risk of A) Getting COVID and B) dying of it if I do. Why would I risk getting a heart attack or paralysis by getting the vaccine?” He also said at the time that he had been taking the anti-parasite medication ivermectin, a drug that comes in different forms for animals and humans. The drug has recently been touted as a sort of COVID miracle cure by conservatives, despite no solid evidence it is effective against the virus and health officials sounding the alarm over people poisoning themselves with the animal version of the drug.

Not a great advertisement for Ivermectin. But if I were a test-tube, I’d rush out and buy it because it has cured a lot of test-tubes apparently.

Unfortunately for Phil Valentine, he was sucked in by the conservative con. He should have realised that he just needed to say he was against vaccines and for Ivermectin: he should have got himself vaccinated while telling his audience that they should refuse the vaccine. Republicans in Congress refuse to say whether they’ve been vaccinated on the grounds that the legislation protecting medical confidentiality prevents them from answering that question (which it doesn’t). It turns out they can have their cake and eat it too. They can win praise from Anti-Vaxxers while keeping themselves safe.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4594 –
I'm somewhat buoyed by NSW holding the figures to 800 cases a day, presuming they are genuine, once it gets into those numbers it's hard to tell what is accurate. However, I'll reserve getting to excited given they only mandated masks for the first time today! :o
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4598 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/premier-abandon-your-plans-to-open-up-when-we-hit-6-million-jabs-20210822-p58kxb.html

This is more for NSW, but clearly the principle is applicable in all States.
With Burythemall in charge I really can't work out what is a valid statement. Lots of statements seem to have a lifetime of about a week, usually prefaced by we aren't going to make the same mistakes as Victoria, or we won't be going down that track, until they do!

It's like,
Never ending stalling - Lal lal laaaa lal lal la lal lal la!
Never ending stalling - Lal lal laaaa lal lal la lal lal la!
Never ending stalling - Lal lal laaaa lal lal la lal lal la!
Never ending stalling - Lal lal laaaa lal lal la lal lal la!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4601 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/the-fate-of-astrazeneca-s-vaccine-business-is-in-the-balance-20210825-p58lna.html
Think AstraZ is dead in the water, even here people are cancelling their AZ appointments hoping to get Pfizer.
Been some business talk that Moderna may partner with CSL, the former usually partner with another company rather than having their own production facilities as they are a smaller operation unlike Pfizer who have and build their own labs.
Going to be good money in Booster shots, wonder how long the Government will continue to subsidise vaccinations..
 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4602 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Think AstraZ is dead in the water, even here people are cancelling their AZ appointments hoping to get Pfizer.
Been some business talk that Moderna may partner with CSL, the former usually partner with another company rather than having their own production facilities as they are a smaller operation unlike Pfizer who have and build their own labs.
Going to be good money in Booster shots, wonder how long the Government will continue to subsidise vaccinations..

I still think it's a shame it's come to this. Lots of hysteria about a very low chance of problems.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4603 –
It’ll be interesting to read a history of Covid vaccines, but we’ll have to wait a few years for that so the dust can settle.

There was a news story about concerns that Moderna might have a problem with myocarditis. It’s interesting there have been no concerns over Pfizer. If only I could fire up the Delorean and grab me a copy of the authoritative history of Covid vaccines to see whether that has been a triumph of science or a tribute to PR.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4604 –
I’m off for my 2nd AZ this arvo, if I don’t come back tell Teaguey I love him…
🤣
Let’s go BIG !