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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6390 –
Have you ever watched Border Security on TV? That's the way it's done. Generally, if the paperwork's rejected the traveller will have the option of taking the next flight out. If they want to challenge the decision, then they're detained until that challenge runs its course. Sure, it's okay for the average traveller to be locked in a room for 10 hours, but Djokovic should have been allowed to leave with his entourage because he isn't the average traveller.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6391 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Well they said he could come and then locked him in a room for 10hrs.
It now looks like his claim of having an exemption is bogus, there are leaks that claim the reason given is 'natural immunity" to COVID.

So at the moment it looks like Djoker just rolled up and tried to legally bully his way into the country never having had a exemption or visa to travel here without immunisation!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #6392 –
Quote from: LP – on
It now looks like his claim of having an exemption is bogus, there are leaks that claim the reason given is 'natural immunity" to COVID.

So at the moment it looks like Djoker just rolled up and tried to legally bully his way into the country never having had a exemption or visa to travel here without immunisation!

That's not what Craig Tiley said yesterday.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6393 –
It's too early to say whether you're right or wrong, MBB. We're in the dark. At the very least, the Federal Government should have made its position clear to Djokovic before he jumped on the flight. Scotty from Marketing is acting as if his arrival was unexpected but it wasn't.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6394 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
That's not what Craig Tiley said yesterday.
It looks like Tiley and others may have taken Djoker or his entourage at their word and were potentially led up the garden path, I suppose given medical record / privacy issues they had no choice but to believe it.

Now it seems, to me at least, that the reports now surfacing indicate someone has lied!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6395 –
Quote from: Mav – on
It's too early to say whether you're right or wrong, MBB. We're in the dark. At the very least, the Federal Government should have made its position clear to Djokovic before he jumped on the flight. Scotty from Marketing is acting as if his arrival was unexpected but it wasn't.
This position assumes the question was asked before he left, this seems to contradict reports that the application failed in flight, so it looks like nobody checked before he left.

It may be the media reports of having an exemption were all part of the plan to sway public opinion in an attempt to apply political pressure and get past the local customs and quarantine rules.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #6396 –
Tennis players are frequent flyers all over the world. They need to know that they can enter a country if they've been approved.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6397 –
Quote from: LP – on
This position assumes the question was asked before he left, this seems to contradict reports that the application failed in flight, so it looks like nobody checked before he left.

It may be the media reports of having an exemption were all part of the plan to sway public opinion in an attempt to apply political pressure and get past the local customs and quarantine rules.

We're you asleep yesterday?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6398 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
We're you asleep yesterday?
It looks like the system was being gamed, they(someone) placed a bet they could bully their way through the system using public pressure to get a special exemption, and lost the bet!
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Federal health authorities told Tennis Australia boss Craig Tiley on two occasions in writing that people who were not vaccinated and had contracted COVID-19 in the past six months would not be granted quarantine-free travel to Australia.

The emergence of two letters from the Department of Health and Health Minister Greg Hunt in November casts doubt over why tennis star Novak Djokovic was granted an exemption to play in the Australian Open by health panels set up by Tennis Australia and the Victorian government.
Yesterday people were blaming Dan and Victoria, and it looks like at State level politics wasn't even involved!

Yet people want to stick with yesterday's headlines even though they now appear to be proven false/wrong!

What some stated publicly over the last two days was clearly false.
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According to multiple sources, the world No.1 men’s player applied for an exemption on the basis that he had contracted COVID-19 in the previous six months.

In a letter sent to Mr Tiley on November 18, Department of Health first assistant secretary Lisa Schofield said “people who have previously had COVID-19 and not received a vaccine dose are not considered fully vaccinated”.

Ms Schofield said such people would “not be approved for quarantine-free entry, regardless of whether they have received foreign vaccination exemptions”.
They've known this for two months, it was repeated to them again on the 29th of Nov, and they still chose to roll up without an exemption, yet they claimed they had an exemption just yesterday knowing they didn't have one.

If this was a Chinese tennis player some would be asking for them to be instantly deported! Well maybe they should be, but so should Djoker!

Anyway, all it seems Djoker needs to do is the quarantine period, and he's good to go!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #6399 –
If Novak was a nobody he would be through but because he is high profile vocal antivaxxer they blocked him.
Exemptions are supposed to be for people who want to be vaccinated but can't. We know the Djoker will never get vaxxed so he should have been told he was not welcome from the moment it was mandated for anyone who wants to work in Victoria.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #6400 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
If Novak was a nobody he would be through but because he is high profile vocal antivaxxer they blocked him.
Exemptions are supposed to be for people who want to be vaccinated but can't. We know the Djoker will never get vaxxed so he should have been told he was not welcome from the moment it was mandated for anyone who wants to work in Victoria.
It was the Feds who blocked his non-quarantine entry into Australia, twice!

All he has to do is complete quarantine, like everybody else in the same situation inducing the "nobodies"! ;)
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"
 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6401 –
That would get him in the country but not the tournament. He needed the medical exemption to play tennis in Victoria.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6402 –
Bit of a worry that a man in his 20s dies in the NSW from Covid, especially as he allegedly had no underlying conditions. I guess he may have had an undiagnosed underlying condition for all we know, but still its a worry.

I've had the booster now, so in 2 weeks time I'll be mosh-pit-ready.

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Reply #6404 –
This hit the nail on the head:
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Whatever the case, it’s hard to escape the feeling all of this government blowback was put into play during Djokovic’s flight as politicians quickly realised the Pandora’s box they’d invited in by not flatly rejecting Djokovic’s application the moment it arrived.

Scotty from Marketing had tried to say it was up to the Victorian Govt to determine whether players could play and he tried to wash his hands of it and deny any responsibility. Then Djokovic put him on the spot and, suddenly, it became a Fed Govt issue. Scotty from Marketing could easily have sent a clear message through the media or even directly to Djokovic. He's hardly a man of mystery as his every move is foreshadowed in his tournament schedule and he has an agent who is happy to field sponsorship and advertising offers at any time of the day or night.