Carlton Supporters Club

I'm guessing Dangerfield speaks to the players and represents the majority opinion, as opposed to going off half cocked and just pleasing himself ? It should hardly come as a surprise that he advocates for the status quo, which helps the entire player pool.

At any rate, I think this drastically different post-covid world scenario is being somewhat overstated. There will surely be a period of relative austerity, but once things are back on track I expect the AFL arms race to resume, and we will be back to where we were before all this erupted.

It's BS, it's done, here and NZ at least.

we might get a modest 'cluster' here or there but even that is highly unlikely.

The thing doesn't linger in cupboards or drawers for months...

That said, the SD rules will endure to some extent but it must be unwound carefully. Absolutely.

Bottom line, Dan's just being a socialist twat. There is no science to support his current position.

Then there's recent research like this - https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.24.20078717v1

Not so.

These things follow well established pathways.

Then there's recent research like this - https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.24.20078717v1

You do understand that the lock down we have experienced is not the way these  pandemics are normally dealt with?

Normally, you quarantine the infected and those who will be in deep poo poo if they catch it (the old and immuno compromised).

Our kids and we folk should be getting the f... on with it.

It really is not rocket science.

Dan Andrews is just pulling his pud now.

The testing (which isn't even the antibody test i gather) is a total waste of space and money ($200 a pop I've heard). It proves/shows nothing relevant.

Normally....

I'm 37 years old.

I've yet to live through anything like this.  I'd wager most people 20 years my senior haven't either.

Evidence indicates that a modern approach to quarantine encompassing a range of options designed to reduce the frequency of social contact can significantly reduce the spread of infectious disease. Such options include short-term, voluntary home curfew; suspension or cancellation of public activities (such as events, mass transit, or access to public buildings); and “snow day” or sheltering-in-place measures. These measures could be employed individually or in concert. In addition to or in place of these strategies, a program of contact surveillance—the monitoring of asymptomatic persons exposed to an infectious disease—could be undertaken.

Copyright © 2004, National Academy of Sciences.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK92465/

You do understand that the lock down we have experienced is not the way these  pandemics are normally dealt with?

Normally, you quarantine the infected and those who will be in deep poo poo if they catch it (the old and immuno compromised).

They are implementing the lessons learned form SARS and MERS, so Flyboy77 is partially correct, what they are doing now is not like what they did in the past, because they were so so wrong in the past!This is an excerpt from a book published in 2004 called Learning from SARS, a book with multiple heavily qualified authors and fully peer reviewed by disease specialists. A reference manual they had available and studied at military academies all over the world as part of training for biological warfare. Yet for many weeks the USA, Britain and other countries failed to react due to stupidly thinking closing borders did something. It was a stupid of a reaction as building a wall to stop foreigners! They were guessing about what COVID-19 would be like, and in the end got it wrong paying a massive price that is nowhere yet near it's peak!

It's not a political tome written after the fact like much of the Twitter quoted rubbish floating around!

My Point being is that no one, without exception has seen a disease like COVID19 before, and everyone is flying very much by the seat of their pants.

The virus spread to Philadelphia on September 19, 1918, through the Philadelphia Navy Yard, UPenn states. In a matter of days, 600 sailors had the virus.
Yet Philadelphia didn't cancel its Liberty Loan Parade, scheduled for just a little more than a week later. Meant to be a patriotic wartime effort, the parade went on as scheduled on September 28, bringing 200,000 Philadelphians together.
By October 1, there were 635 new cases in Philadelphia, according to UPenn.
Philadelphia was one of the hardest-hit US cities. More than 12,000 people died in six weeks, with about 47,000 reported cases, according to UPenn. By the six-month mark, about 16,000 had died and there were more than half a million cases.

St. Louis, for example, canceled its parade while Philadelphia did not. In the end, the death toll in St. Louis did not rise above 700, according to the CDC.

The Spanish flu spread throughout the world and had 3 peaks, Philadelphia basically being responsible for one with their refusal to follow the guidelines.

Everyone KNEW the guidelines, but people thought they were better than them (*looks at trump*) and now they are being made to look silly. 

Us, as an intelligent being, have the ability to write things down and go back through generations to learn from situations like this.

The 'spanish' flu is one such example.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/15/us/philadelphia-1918-spanish-flu-trnd/index.html
The Spanish flu spread throughout the world and had 3 peaks, philadelphia basically being responsible for one with their refusal to follow the guidelines.

Everyone KNEW the guidelines, but people thought they were better than them (*looks at trump*) and now they are being made to look silly.