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Re: Next Flag: Carlton or St Kilda?

Reply #15
REM ... it's the end of the (AFL) world as we know it :)
 
Yes, it's important to remember this.

Healy, Brown and Pavlich are commenting based on the AFL they knew, not what it will become!

Nobody really knows who is going to be best suited to the Nouveau AFL genre, because we do not know what Nouveau AFL is yet!

There are some interesting tells though, clubs rallying against draft age change, rich clubs asking for assistance! In one case those two perspectives are even coincident, that in my opinion it is a sign of the old world desperately clinging onto power! They won't succeed as change is inevitable, so for them it could be disastrous, not just financially but tactically, the rules of the game are changing on all levels.

In other cases, it appears some clubs may be delusional, they are thinking business as usual in ignorance that usual no longer exists, Perhaps it's just they are in shock, a sort of corporate / social denial! They comment and behave like this fever situation has peaked, when it's really just the first sneeze of a long flu season!
The Force Awakens!

 

Re: Next Flag: Carlton or St Kilda?

Reply #16
Yes, it's important to remember this.

Healy, Brown and Pavlich are commenting based on the AFL they knew, not what it will become!

Nobody really knows who is going to be best suited to the Nouveau AFL genre, because we do not know what Nouveau AFL is yet!

There are some interesting tells though, clubs rallying against draft age change, rich clubs asking for assistance! In one case those two perspectives are even coincident, that in my opinion it is a sign of the old world desperately clinging onto power! They won't succeed as change is inevitable, so for them it could be disastrous, not just financially but tactically, the rules of the game are changing on all levels.

In other cases, it appears some clubs may be delusional, they are thinking business as usual in ignorance that usual no longer exists, Perhaps it's just they are in shock, a sort of corporate / social denial! They comment and behave like this fever situation has peaked, when it's really just the first sneeze of a long flu season!

Yep. My concern is that Gil, as we well know, is drawn to fluff and glitz and will attempt to steer our game too far in that direction. The temptation to turn our game into something like that abomination of a pre-season 'thing' at the beginning of last year maybe too much for Gil. Hopefully the coaches, Presidents and CEOs will keep this bloke in check.

There is necessary change, then there is change for the sake of it... or to satisfy a particular, peculiar bias.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: Next Flag: Carlton or St Kilda?

Reply #17
No draft,  or a lift in draft age will seriously impact a number of clubs that need to get new talent in the door fast.

Personally I sat F'em.  Do exactly that.    The AFL hasn't exactly gone out of their way to help us out in that area in the past decade.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: Next Flag: Carlton or St Kilda?

Reply #18
When Virgin folds (as it will) just contemplate the reconstruction of flights to a QF schedule for interstate operations.  And to where?

IMHO, 2020 should be put to bed now so resource planning commences now in earnest for 2021.

It'll need a bloody decent panel dedicated to logistics, frameworks, sponsorships and competing teams. 

Action without bias and mature project managers.

Re: Next Flag: Carlton or St Kilda?

Reply #19
When Virgin folds (as it will) just contemplate the reconstruction of flights to a QF schedule for interstate operations.  And to where?

IMHO, 2020 should be put to bed now so resource planning commences now in earnest for 2021.

It'll need a bloody decent panel dedicated to logistics, frameworks, sponsorships and competing teams. 

Action without bias and mature project managers.

I'm starting to think 2020 is a WOFT now. Those in charge will really earn their keep getting through this one.
2017 - 16th
2018 - Wooden Spoon
2019 - 16th
2020 - write off

Re: Next Flag: Carlton or St Kilda?

Reply #20
I'm starting to think 2020 is a WOFT now. Those in charge will really earn their keep getting through this one.
Agree...its going to be more like the old lightning premiership series and I'm not even sure if some of the better
players will even front up. Its more about getting the game back on TV and those advertising/sponsorship dollars
flowing to help keep teams afloat.
What disturbs me more is the Bulldogs being able to go it alone without AFL assistance and us having to crawl to the AFL, how far have we fallen that the Dogs are able to keep afloat and we would be drowning not waving without assistance...😒

Re: Next Flag: Carlton or St Kilda?

Reply #21
When Virgin folds (as it will) just contemplate the reconstruction of flights to a QF schedule for interstate operations.  And to where?

IMHO, 2020 should be put to bed now so resource planning commences now in earnest for 2021.

It'll need a bloody decent panel dedicated to logistics, frameworks, sponsorships and competing teams. 

Action without bias and mature project managers.


Virgin was in trouble before Covid19, how they could sponsor anyone was beyond me when you looked at their balance sheet..

Re: Next Flag: Carlton or St Kilda?

Reply #22
Agree...its going to be more like the old lightning premiership series and I'm not even sure if some of the better
players will even front up. Its more about getting the game back on TV and those advertising/sponsorship dollars
flowing to help keep teams afloat.
What disturbs me more is the Bulldogs being able to go it alone without AFL assistance and us having to crawl to the AFL, how far have we fallen that the Dogs are able to keep afloat and we would be drowning not waving without assistance...😒

From what i can remember of that Caro article i was talking about earlier (cannot find it!) the dogs are better suited simply because they recently sold off a lot of land they owned IIRC.
Perfect timing for them in that regard and they'd be stuffed if it happened any other time.

Re: Next Flag: Carlton or St Kilda?

Reply #23
From what i can remember of that Caro article i was talking about earlier (cannot find it!) the dogs are better suited simply because they recently sold off a lot of land they owned IIRC.
Perfect timing for them in that regard and they'd be stuffed if it happened any other time.

Fair enough, thought it odd they would have the regular coin coming in to stay afloat unless they had some secret benefactor..

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Reply #24
Does the money need to be paid back to the AFL by the clubs?
2017 - 16th
2018 - Wooden Spoon
2019 - 16th
2020 - write off


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Reply #26
I'm starting to think 2020 is a WOFT now. Those in charge will really earn their keep getting through this one.
They can get to the end of a Mickey Mouse season and give everybody a gold star for participation!

Can you imagine the crap that the fans of whichever club won the flag in that season would have to put up with, most wouldn't even want it on the official tally?
The Force Awakens!

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Reply #27
Yep....with interest.

....but less than what the banks will slug you.
 The AFL will allow the club loans to go into arrears until all other creditors have been satisfied, there is no fixed term.
The Force Awakens!

Re: Next Flag: Carlton or St Kilda?

Reply #28
They can get to the end of a Mickey Mouse season and give everybody a gold star for participation!

Can you imagine the crap that the fans of whichever club won the flag in that season would have to put up with, most wouldn't even want it on the official tally?

If we won flag 17 we would simply point to the scoreboard irrespective of what the rank and file have to say.

Winning is winning.

Its not like these circumstances are in our control.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: Next Flag: Carlton or St Kilda?

Reply #29
If we won flag 17 we would simply point to the scoreboard irrespective of what the rank and file have to say.

Winning is winning.

Its not like these circumstances are in our control.
 Maybe, I'm sure the winners will spin it however they like but if it's a half-ar5ed competition it won't come with the same respect!
The Force Awakens!