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Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 2: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #135 –
Quote from: Lods – on
That comes with long periods of playing together and gaining an understanding of our team-mates strengths and weaknesses
I think one of the major problems of the rebuild process we've undertaken is that with the constant list changes we haven't had a settled side for the last five or so years.
Again this year our team is not yet settled with the introduction of new players and injuries.
Until we get a core group playing together consistently I don't have high expectations.
What I do want to see towards the end of the season is a more settled side.

Every club goes through those changes and they appear far more settled IMO Lods.  Sorry, doesn't cut it for mine at all. 

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 2: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #136 –
Quote from: capcom – on
Every club goes through those changes and they appear far more settled IMO Lods.  Sorry, doesn't cut it for mine at all. 
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2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 2: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #137 –
I don't think any club has gutted its list to the same extent that we have over the last five years.
If you look back on my posts its a strategy I never agreed with from the start and we're still suffering the effect of what was a poor decision in the first place.
But it does explain why we are where we are.
The hope is that this year is a consolidation and we finally start to reap some benefits of a course of action we never should have embarked upon.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 2: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #138 –
Those successful old teams of ours had retiring quality players replaced by younger quality players, partly I'm sure due to $$$ and because players like successful clubs - the core group between the two had belief from winning and success, and that belief rubs off onto the incoming younger mob.

It's hard for our leaders to pass on belief that I'm not sure they have themselves. And it's hard to get good players because no one wants to come to bottom clubs, which of course has been said many times before. The cycle is hard to break. I think Lods' point about the significant list changes creating lack of cohesion is right.
 

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 2: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #140 –
Rozee was a flight risk, Walsh won't leave Victoria.  Still think we got that pick right IMO

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 2: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #141 –
Just rewatching the second half, except for that atrocious miss running into goal, McGovern’s third quarter was a major reason why we got back into the game. He actually got on his bike and got mobile. I have faith.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 2: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #142 –
Quote from: capcom – on
Rozee was a flight risk, Walsh won't leave Victoria.  Still think we got that pick right IMO

I just have this nasty nagging feeling that the longer players are with us the more self belief they lose. There is something deeply and fundamentally wrong at the club,  I am growing more convinced of it. Not confident either that the latest management regime will fix it.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 2: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #143 –
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
Just rewatching the second half, except for that atrocious miss running into goal, McGovern’s third quarter was a major reason why we got back into the game. He actually got on his bike and got mobile. I have faith.
Coach sang his praises in the presser
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 2: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #144 –
Intersting stat on fox footy, Carlton was the 4 oldest team at the weekend.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 2: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #146 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
The coach is very generous, 10 disposals and 1 tackle vs Melbourne@800k a season isnt exactly praise worthy Imo.
No argument from me on the score EB. His output, preparation and apparent level of effort has certainly justified his alleged pay packet.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 2: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #147 –
It's hard to understand how for the very long term our club's coaching and recruiting staff seem so oblivious to our lack of heavy bodied leg speed.

They complain about our slow starts, like it's an attitude problem. But I'd say our primary problem is we can't keep up when the heat is on in the opening minutes, no matter how hard we try we just haven't got the leg speed and if we don't get first use of the ball we're out of the contest.

Cripps, Curnow x 2, Setterfield, Gibbons, SPS, SoJ, etc., etc., might be able to use strength and aerobic capacity late in a quarter, but it will always be coming back from a deficit. We need to find ourselves a high speed heavy bodied tackler in short term.

Last weekend, until the legs slowed, Cripps and Setterfield were always two steps behind similar sized blokes like Petracca, Oliver and Tomlinson.

In the past we'd have SpecialK squaring the ledger and preventing opposition taking the ball away, but we haven't now and might not ever have him again. I have hope for De Koning.

This is not a new problem, it's been our problem since back in the days of Kouta.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 2: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #148 –
@LP
Josh Dunkley would certainly be worth a look.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 2: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #149 –
@cookie2‍
I think we missed a huge trick in not having a bigger crack at Hugh Greenwood.

I know EB1 thinks the Crouch's are potential targets but that's at least 2 or 3 seasons off, and costly, there is a lot of water to go under the bridge before then.

We miss Robbo so badly, Malthouse is the gift that just keeps on giving, that Filth prick found away to offload our rarest resource.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"