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Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #30 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
Is that right? Well there's the game right there. Bad, bad attitude.
Reading their own press the past few weeks 🙄

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #31 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
I didn't watch Q4, but you know what?

Cripps kicks that goal late in the third I reckon we would have won.

That's not to excuse the abject laziness of many, the cheap cough ups and the incredibly bad decision making, but hey.....and the bizarre umpiring.

Teague just needs to drop a few - big h, simmo, McGovern, newnes.

Still think Cripps is injured.
Cripps always struggles vs Steele, we should have started him away from Steele say at FF. But then you need another strong mid to step up and we just dont have that. Cripps came home in junk time ok so I thought he was fit enough, just doesnt like how Steele mans him so close and he seems to have the muscle to match it with Cripps.
Needed a Robbo to offer some decent blocks....new onball lineup required, maybe Stocker, Kennedy in the middle with Martin and Cripps.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #32 –
It’s very simple again the game was lost in the middle early on. Until Cripps gets genuine support we will remain a bottom team. We are showing every sign again of a bottom 2-3 finish.

Cripps is looking tired and battle scarred and must be sick and tired of the pressure to drag us over the line every game. Very real chance he will be considering heading home have a chance at success in the second half of his career.

And who would blame him. Was very surprised to see him smiling and laughing after the game. Looks like even he is now conditioned to accept losing.

Miles behind where we should be 5 yes 5 years into a rebuild.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #33 –
Teague got his butt  whipped by Ratts.

Spanked, think he too had started to believe his own press...

Needs to STFU, cut out the media drivel and do his job better.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #34 –
I'm afraid SPS who started out with the club as a bomb is now just a penny bunger.

Also a little concerned with Walsh.  His free running curbed.  Martin, however, very impressed
 

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #35 –
If anything the last 16 games has shown we can match it with anyone. So I don't expect them to dish up the crap they dished up last night anymore. Sick of the poor attitude and lack of "want". Don't worry too much about individuals, bring the correct attitude and the rest will look after itself.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #36 –
Quote from: laj – on
If anything the last 16 games has shown we can match it with anyone. So I don't expect them to dish up the crap they dished up last night anymore. Sick of the poor attitude and lack of "want". Don't worry too much about individuals, bring the correct attitude and the rest will look after itself.
I absolutely know they will dish up the crap they did last night again, they have form. Dunno which team you have been watching.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
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Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #37 –
Quote from: capcom – on
I'm afraid SPS who started out with the club as a bomb is now just a penny bunger.

He’s giving NOTHING. Watched him closely in last q. Ball was in dispute in one of these rugby style rolling mauls, his opponent took 2 quick sideways steps and crouched low intently following the ball. SPS allowed the distance between then to get out to over a metre - actually looked disinterested. The ball popped out,  StK player swooped on it and was able to get a clean disposal away starting a chain which resulted in a goal.

Little things like that kill us.

Memo to Teague - he ain’t a defender’s bootlace.
Keyboard warrior #24601

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #38 –
SPS did the job on Tipper last week and while he didn't get much of the ball he defended OK. But I think the experiment is over and he needs to be in the Midfield mix now and taking on responsibility.
If he doesn't give us more by seasons end we should look at trade options for him.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #39 –
He's picking and choosing.

Needs to choose whether he wants to be an elite level player or he can back to mucking around in Halls Creek.

All the skills in the world but the elite players have that quietly ruthless commitment and determination and I just don't see it.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #40 –
Our midfield, Cripps aside,  is full of flawed players.   Big enough but won't attack contest,  determination but no size,  no pace,  poor skills but a great runner, great athlete but dumb footballer, undersized blah blah blah.   As Spanner says...twenty plus years of this crap.   Surely we can recruit midfielders suited to the modern game,  even if they are bloody flukes,  surely!?!
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #41 –
I’m trying very hard to be positive and while I know this is bad football we handed them at least 4 goals from direct turnovers.
Willo easy missed mark on wing turned over goal, Jones x2 passes that missed resulted in goals and SPS 20 metre pass in the middle of the ground when we had momentum was rebounded for saints goal.
Plus not many games where majority of our senior players have a quiet game and it’s amazing we weren’t pumped.
And some very soft frees on top. They were the better team and made the most of their chances so they deserved the win but reckon 3 years ago this would have been a 10 goal plus hiding.
Still not good enough but I guess there is some light in this loss if you want to be a glass half full supporter.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #42 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
SPS did the job on Tipper last week and while he didn't get much of the ball he defended OK. But I think the experiment is over and he needs to be in the Midfield mix now and taking on responsibility.
If he doesn't give us more by seasons end we should look at trade options for him.

I also would love to see more from him but we have much bigger problems then SPS.  He has shown enough for me to still think he should make it. The kid is durable definitely has ability and think its harsh to be too critical on him based on last night.

He had a lot of mates having an off night including A graders like Doc, Cripps and Weitering who were all soundly beaten when they game was hot early on.

I have bigger question marks over many of our kids and way too many spots on our list are taking up by blokes that are never going to make it.

If we think SPS is not good enough then if we are honest at least 15 players should be shown the door with him. 

If that’s the case we are screwed for another 10 years.
 

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #43 –
Quote from: shawny – on
I also would love to see more from him but we have much bigger problems then SPS.  He has shown enough for me to still think he should make it. The kid is durable definitely has ability and think its harsh to be too critical on him based on last night.

He had a lot of mates having an off night including A graders like Doc, Cripps and Weitering who were all soundly beaten when they game was hot early on.

I have bigger question marks over many of our kids and way too many spots on our list are taking up by blokes that are never going to make it.

If we think SPS is not good enough then if we are honest at least 15 players should be shown the door with him. 

If that’s the case we are screwed for another 10 years.
 

Given where he was taken in the draft he needs to be impacting games more.
If it takes 15 more changes then let's do it because its not working with the list we have.
We are the least physical unit in the comp and the reliance on Cripps has reached Judd like proportions. Last night showed how bad we are with Cripps well held and how thin our Midfield is and SPS was recruited as Mid and not someone we should be hiding in backline because they prefer less contact.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #44 –
No Ryder, no Jones, Hannebery only played half the game, and Hill did nothing. Could have been much worse.