Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? Reply #75 – April 11, 2023, 06:15:09 pm Quote from: Lods – on April 11, 2023, 05:32:51 pmThe two years for DeKoning is perfect for both player and club.We'll know his real worth by then. Silvagni should never ruck again, we have other jobs for him.Has that been made official yet? Quote Selected
Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? Reply #76 – April 11, 2023, 06:33:27 pm Quote from: kruddler – on April 11, 2023, 06:15:09 pmHas that been made official yet?It's just media talk at the moment. No official word. Quote Selected
Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? Reply #77 – April 11, 2023, 06:37:00 pm Not official, but ideal. Quote Selected
Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? Reply #78 – April 11, 2023, 06:55:16 pm Quote from: LP – on April 11, 2023, 04:50:57 pm@ElwoodBlues1 But the Handbaggers also had as backups Ceglar, Neale, Hawkins and Ratugolea rucking at various times in various zones, all of them stitch up our SoJ who is our backup for Pitto and TDK.We now have Mirkov and Okeefe as backup plus the bloke from Motorhead if desperate.........Neale is a untried kid similar to our young lot, Ratugolea is an athelete with zero know how in the ruck and most other positions if we are being honest and I agree Hawkins is very good value down forward and someone Harry should aspire to be in terms of how he can be a threat to score from ruck contests.Their real established backup is Ceglar who has been playing a few games this season but is probably close to being done as a senior player....Jack was tried in the Shaun Grigg role and did a fair job for a while but I think we have all seen you need two specialist rucks or your relief ruck to be a Blicavs uber soldier to compete in the modern game.Im happy to keep TDK but not on anything over 500k a year....otherwise Id trade him out and get a Darcy Cameron type to replace him.. Quote Selected
Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? Reply #79 – April 12, 2023, 12:36:32 pm I'll just leave this here for you to think about ......2016 Draft#47 Harrison Macreadie => #48 Darcy Cameron Quote Selected
Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? Reply #80 – April 12, 2023, 01:21:14 pm Quote from: LordLucifer – on April 12, 2023, 12:36:32 pmI'll just leave this here for you to think about ......2016 Draft#47 Harrison Macreadie => #48 Darcy CameronI believe we did compete for Cameron when he was leaving the Swans but Collingwood offered a bit more and pipped us at the post. Pick 56 was a cheap price to pay....after all the salary cap issues and player give aways ie Treloar etc the Pies have made a fair comeback list management wise all be it aided by some lucky father/son pickups and some astute drafting of retreds, moneyballers and oddball rookies who they have turned into players. Quote Selected
Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? Reply #81 – April 12, 2023, 02:45:09 pm ^^Not to mention that Benjamin Button Pendlebury shows no sign of slowing down. To think him Daisy and Murphy all went same draft. Quote Selected
Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? Reply #82 – April 12, 2023, 03:29:40 pm Quote from: Thryleon – on April 12, 2023, 02:45:09 pm^^Not to mention that Benjamin Button Pendlebury shows no sign of slowing down. To think him Daisy and Murphy all went same draft.Dont think I have seen a more consistent player than Pendlebury or one with his awareness and disposal skills.......he has never been physically quick, doesnt take big marks and does everything in that laconic slow motion way and I think that has helped him keeping playing at the same pace. Takes his fitness and diet seriously, think his wife is in the nutrition field and always presents in excellent condition and made him a favourite of coaches.Spent a lot of time with Melbourne United during the last NBL season observing Dean Vickerman coaching. I saw him at a few games down near the bench and he is setting himself up for a AFL coaching career sooner than later. Loves his basketball and doesnt have to be asked twice about joining in a game either and still fancies himself as a player.....all of which probably adds to his ability to still keep playing at a high level. Quote Selected
Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? Reply #83 – April 12, 2023, 04:57:37 pm Medicine and player care has progressed at a great rate, better health management, faster healing, better outcomes, less duress, I suspect it all adds up to modern player longevity.For this reason we should not be judging players too harshly when they are still early 20s, many may now play on comfortably into their mid 30s.Impatience could be our enemy! Quote Selected Last Edit: April 12, 2023, 04:59:20 pm by LP
Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? Reply #84 – April 12, 2023, 06:04:12 pm If SOS wasn't so fixated on recycling GWS players, we could have snagged Cameron for nix in the draft. Quote Selected
Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? Reply #85 – April 12, 2023, 06:58:54 pm Quote from: LordLucifer – on April 12, 2023, 06:04:12 pmIf SOS wasn't so fixated on recycling GWS players, we could have snagged Cameron for nix in the draft.Yawn.....and the other 16 AFL clubs? What reason did they have for not picking him? Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? Reply #86 – April 13, 2023, 08:57:05 am Quote from: kruddler – on April 12, 2023, 06:58:54 pmYawn.....and the other 16 AFL clubs? What reason did they have for not picking him?That was also SOS’s fault. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? Reply #87 – April 13, 2023, 10:12:29 am Quote from: northernblue – on April 13, 2023, 08:57:05 amThat was also SOS’s fault.So Cameron was picked up by GWS as an under ager in 2010, how is that anyones fault when it was a concession they received? Hard to compete agains that. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? Reply #88 – April 13, 2023, 10:17:37 am Quote from: Gointocarlton – on April 13, 2023, 10:12:29 amSo Cameron was picked up by GWS as an under ager in 2010, how is that anyones fault when it was a concession they received? Hard to compete agains that.(i think) we are talking about the collingwood one, and I'm taking the piss by blaming everything on sos Quote Selected
Re: The Ruck Division .... Is It Really Competent Enough ?? Reply #89 – April 13, 2023, 11:31:06 am Quote from: northernblue – on April 13, 2023, 10:17:37 am(i think) we are talking about the collingwood one, and I'm taking the piss by blaming everything on sos Doh! Ill punch my self in the head. Quote Selected 1 Likes