Carlton Supporters Club

Word is Tom knows they can't satisfy us and will sign a 2 year deal taking him to FA.

Do we want a player who is just hanging around for 2 years?, until the big pay day who has his mind somewhere else and wont be fully committed who we put more devlopment time into then fecks off and we get some crap compo pick in a weak draft knowing our luck. Id rather trade him out now to the highest bidder and develop the next TDK than waste time getting him cherry ripe for Geelong. He can go to Essendon or Stkilda and they can pay us properly....

Do we want a player who is just hanging around for 2 years?, until the big pay day who has his mind somewhere else and wont be fully committed who we put more devlopment time into then fecks off and we get some crap compo pick in a weak draft knowing our luck. Id rather trade him out now to the highest bidder and develop the next TDK than waste time getting him cherry ripe for Geelong. He can go to Essendon or Stkilda and they can pay us properly....

Forget word on the street for a moment, my own mail is that he loves the club and prefers to stay, it's up to to the club. What I read into that is that they are looking at trading him now (which he knows) rather than losing him to FA now (which they dont know for sure that he will go, he may choose to stay long term). Its all a bit of a mess if you ask me. My preference would be to try and keep him for 2 and hopefully we fire up and he stays longer. If he has to leave, his preference is Geel for obvious reasons and its here that I feel Curly's Boy will cave in and we will end up with dregs off Geel (again).

My own preference if we have to trade his is to Syd involving Papley or Heeney.

Forget word on the street for a moment, my own mail is that he loves the club and prefers to stay, it's up to to the club. What I read into that is that they are looking at trading him now (which he knows) rather than losing him to FA now (which they dont know for sure that he will go, he may choose to stay long term). Its all a bit of a mess if you ask me. My preference would be to try and keep him for 2 and hopefully we fire up and he stays longer. If he has to leave, his preference is Geel for obvious reasons and its here that I feel Curly's Boy will cave in and we will end up with dregs off Geel (again).

My own preference if we have to trade his is to Syd involving Papley or Heeney.

re: Darcy.....form has declined since Jacksons arrival, was better when he had Lobb who was more of a 75/25 Forward in the main.
Jackson has really fecked up Freo and its shows how bringing in high paid players to positions you already have covered can ruin your game plan and method.
Tim English on the other hand has had a blinder of a year....doesnt have to play forward much like he did last year and now enter Lobb who has allowed him to ruck most of the game.
The strange aspect is that Lobb as a ruckman is a spud who would struggle against most other rucks but his role is just to give the main ruckman a short rest each quarter and then go forward where he probably does his best work.
Finding that specialist Forward/Ruck is the key imho.......for mine TDK is more of a ruckman than a forward and we dont still have the right mix.

 

Freo Contested possession differential

With Darcy: +14.4
Without Darcy: -17.7

"When Pittonet attends a ruck contest, Carlton wins the clearance seven per cent more often than their opposition. When De Koning attends a ruck contest, they lose the clearance seven per cent more often than their opposition."

- Daniel Hoyne 27/6/23

Pittonet is a pure ruckman and has the edge over De Koning in this space. De Koning is better around the ground. I'm really not sure why we have to compare them, or what there is to be gained by doing so. It's not apples and oranges, but they're not the same type of player, and I'm sure the club knows that. De Koning is also 4 years younger.

Pittonet is a pure ruckman and has the edge over De Koning in this space. De Koning is better around the ground. I'm really not sure why we have to compare them, or what there is to be gained by doing so. It's not apples and oranges, but they're not the same type of player, and I'm sure the club knows that. De Koning is also 4 years younger.

Yes most of us get that the Mid rotations play just as big of a part, the Mids you pair the rucks with matters, and we don't accept pure concession is ever a viable option.

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