Re: General Discussions Reply #2265 – May 16, 2025, 02:41:13 pm Quote from: PaulP – on May 15, 2025, 04:56:01 pmQuote from: kruddler – on May 15, 2025, 04:24:00 pmDid you ever listen to sheargold or are you looking at the incidents in isolation?As you say, nuance is crucial.He, unlike Bob Murphy, is in the comedy business. Cutting edge comedy usually offends someone. People are easily offended.Actions speak louder than words and Sheargold on-air persona is a bit different.I listened to Marty Sheargold for about a year. Says things that are controversial, but does it with a smile. Even the female on-air talent that are the barbs of his jokes follow him from network to network, so it can't be all that bad. I don't have any skin in the game one way or another, but painting Bob Murphy as a 'good guy' and Sheargold as 'not' is subjective and limited to their on-air personas. Its very dangerous.How many 'good guys' end up being serial killers. You don't know people. You only know what they show you.At the end of the day, what you say might be right......but it might be wrong.https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/radio/torture-your-soul-insiders-reveal-dark-toxic-days-with-marty-sheargold/news-story/9134c68b6a6bf4896b9b3702916dbbeaQuote“Marty is a talented bloke … but, like most talented comedians, they’re tough to handle,” he said.This quote sums it up perfectly.Comedians as a whole are 'tough' to deal with.Translated: I'm a karen who can't take a joke.Which is what i said.As i said, i couldn't give a stuff about any of the people mentioned. Good / Bad guy is very subjective.....especially in terms of comedy. Quote Selected
Re: General Discussions Reply #2266 – June 11, 2025, 06:58:30 am The channel 9 reporter shot with the rubber bullet...It shouldn't have happened. A camera and a microphone should give you a good indication that you're press.But in the age of social media influencers you can never be sure.The question is why don't our reporters wear the high viz and helmets clearly identifying them as press that most countries do. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: General Discussions Reply #2267 – June 11, 2025, 07:21:00 am Quote from: Lods – on June 11, 2025, 06:58:30 amThe question is why don't our reporters wear the high viz and helmets clearly identifying them as press that most countries do.Firstly, in the USA you can buy combat clothing and paramilitary garb at the local corner store, how you are dressed means nothing and that applies to both sides of the fight.Her crew probably did have HiVis on, but to the MAGA crew that might only make you a bigger target.The professional media will be briefed by a security crew what the best tactic is to get in safely and get out, none of the experts would have thought some d@!khead in the National Guard might decide to deliberately shot bystanders.The media crew would probably have been focussed on watching the other way to avoid being hit by stuff launched by the rioters, they wouldn't have thought a line of National Guards was the main problem. Quote Selected
Re: General Discussions Reply #2268 – June 11, 2025, 07:35:29 am Quote from: LP – on June 11, 2025, 07:21:00 amQuote from: Lods – on June 11, 2025, 06:58:30 amThe question is why don't our reporters wear the high viz and helmets clearly identifying them as press that most countries do.Firstly, in the USA you can buy combat clothing and paramilitary garb at the local corner store, how you are dressed means nothing and that applies to both sides of the fight.Her crew probably did have HiVis on, but to the MAGA crew that might only make you a bigger target.The professional media will be briefed by a security crew what the best tactic is to get in safely and get out, none of the experts would have thought some d@!khead in the National Guard might decide to deliberately shot bystanders.The media crew would probably have been focussed on watching the other way to avoid being hit by stuff launched by the rioters, they wouldn't have thought a line of National Guards was the main problem.You can never plan completely for cowboys and stupidity...especially in the gun toting USA.As we've seen in Gaza press identification sometimes means little.But it in areas of conflict or riot you can plan for risk minimisation.If I was in charge of sending reporters into danger zones I'd looking at risk management.Hi viz, helmet, body protection and clear 'press' identification would be obvious requirements. Quote Selected
Re: General Discussions Reply #2269 – June 11, 2025, 08:13:40 am Quote from: Lods – on June 11, 2025, 07:35:29 amHi viz, helmet, body protection and clear 'press' identification would be obvious requirements.Even here at the recent protests over the land forces expo we saw protestors dressed up in what appeared to be "Media" kit, using vests marked as "Press" or "Media", it probably means next to nothing to the security services now other than a slight hesitation for those aware of impersonators. Quote Selected
Re: General Discussions Reply #2270 – June 11, 2025, 08:22:18 am It's caused a bit of controversy.There's been a bit of noise about it.LAPD are saying they'll have a look at the circumstances. You can pretty well guarantee what the findings will be. The officer will get a slap on the wrist and a lot of the blame will be around the reporter not being clearly identifiable. Quote Selected
Re: General Discussions Reply #2271 – June 11, 2025, 09:02:39 am Seems a civil war is under way in the US. Trump gets his way. Doesn't history tell us that many empires fall from within with a lunatic leader! Quote Selected
Re: General Discussions Reply #2272 – June 11, 2025, 09:38:01 am California could be a Canadian Territory by years end. Quote Selected
Re: General Discussions Reply #2273 – June 11, 2025, 10:07:35 am The union looked like it's had it's say, while condemning the action stating the need for employers to prepare staff appropriately for these situations.Now the channel 9 guy reporting this morning is all kitted out. Quote Selected
Re: General Discussions Reply #2274 – June 11, 2025, 10:41:22 am Quote from: Lods – on June 11, 2025, 06:58:30 amThe channel 9 reporter shot with the rubber bullet...It shouldn't have happened. A camera and a microphone should give you a good indication that you're press.But in the age of social media influencers you can never be sure.The question is why don't our reporters wear the high viz and helmets clearly identifying them as press that most countries do.Media folk generally only wear that gear when reporting from war zones, not when covering demonstrations in western cities.The officer clearly singled Tomasi out when there was no reason to fire rubber bullets at all, let alone in her direction.There’s interesting footage of a CNN correspondent being detained while covering the protests on live television 🤔 Quote Selected
Re: General Discussions Reply #2275 – June 11, 2025, 10:45:31 am Quote from: Lods – on June 11, 2025, 09:38:01 amCalifornia could be a Canadian Territory by years end. I'm thinking New Nth Mexico!Perhaps Mississippi and Texas will sue for independence! Quote Selected Last Edit: June 11, 2025, 10:47:11 am by LP
Re: General Discussions Reply #2276 – June 11, 2025, 11:41:41 am I've just seen a map circulating with New York state and California as part of greater Canada Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: General Discussions Reply #2277 – June 11, 2025, 12:31:34 pm Is it possible that the reporter and team had over stepped their bounds and received a rubber bullet after repeated comments to the contrary? Perhaps they were not allowed to film in the direction they were?Im not sure, but I believe none of what I read, half of what I see, and always, always infer that there is an agenda being pushed, when there is such a massive reaction to what is in effect, someone putting themselves in the cross hairs and unfortunately getting hit.Thats not to condone what happened. There is always a more peaceful solution but when you are dealing with people who are perhaps dealing with a very turbulent situation, you have to expect the unexpected. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: General Discussions Reply #2278 – June 11, 2025, 01:04:59 pm I don't think you can believe a lot of what is coming out of that whole situation.It's very unclear and fluid.Passions are high on both sides.Lots of truths for sure. But plenty of fiction as well no doubt.Once again many will be guided by their own bias and the reporting of their preferred news outlet.There is also the obvious political nonsense going on and that seems to be inflaming rather than calming the situation, which appallingly may be the desired effect.(but that's a topic for a long, already existing thread.)Fog of War-Riot-Demonstration Quote Selected
Re: General Discussions Reply #2279 – June 11, 2025, 01:37:44 pm Quote from: Lods – on June 11, 2025, 06:58:30 amThe channel 9 reporter shot with the rubber bullet...It shouldn't have happened. A camera and a microphone should give you a good indication that you're press.But in the age of social media influencers you can never be sure.The question is why don't our reporters wear the high viz and helmets clearly identifying them as press that most countries do.I thought about this when I saw it, pretty sure she wasnt wearing a media vest/top which you normally see on journos covering hot spots. Thats on her employer to have made it mandatory. Quote Selected