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Reply #2430 –
You mean I can’t take the engine out of my land cruiser and put it into a commodore ?
Bummer.

The average motorist does about 40km a day in Oz, ev have plenty of range for most, esp when after 8-10 years they will still retain 70% SOC.
No shortage of ev that have clocked up 300/400 and 500kms+ and are still rolling along fine.

You make it sound like ice vehicles are produced with no emissions from manufacture, zero pollution and running costs and last forever without breaking down and don’t ever run out of dinosaur juice, perpetual motion !

There’s still plenty of improvements to be made to batteries.
Let’s go BIG !

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Reply #2431 –
Quote from: northernblue – on
You mean I can’t take the engine out of my land cruiser and put it into a commodore ?
Bummer.
No you have made a false inference.

I can purchase parts and even whole engines from 3rd party suppliers that are price and performance competitive, it's not a captive or closed marketplace.

Quote from: northernblue – on
The average motorist does about 40km a day in Oz, ev have plenty of range for most, esp when after 8-10 years they will still retain 70% SOC. No shortage of ev that have clocked up 300/400 and 500kms+ and are still rolling along fine.
Yes, the bulk of that average is made up within 35kms of a CBD, as accurate as it is it is also very deceptive.

Of course when an 8 year old ICE runs low on fuel you can fill it up and get full range for my longer than average trip, the EV owner can recharge that 8 year old battery stack as much as they like but they'll never get the same range as a new one! ;D

Quote from: northernblue – on
You make it sound like ice vehicles are produced with no emissions from manufacture, zero pollution and running costs and last forever without breaking down and don’t ever run out of dinosaur juice, perpetual motion !
No that's another false assertion, you expose your own desperation.

ICE vehicles like the EVs or other alternatives that will replace them, are not carbon neutral by any measure. All technologies have inherent advantages and weaknesses, wherever the carbon debt occurs, either in use or in manufacture, it's still a carbon debt.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #2432 –
Just keep on plugging ya head deeper into the sand LP.
Let’s go BIG !

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Reply #2433 –
Just back to tools for a minute, there is no ideal brand because they have the best tools across the board.

Tool fight showed milwaukee still winning. Good.
But did milwaukee make the best sanders? No.
Do they make the best hammer drills?
No.
Do they make the best sabre saws?
Maybe.

Even then, technology changes and there is always a new drill (or whatever) out each year by multiple manufacturers so there is a constant game of leapfrog as to who has the best what.

At the end of the day, half the battle with these tools is simply to ensure you have the right battery for the right tool/job.

Most of the brands people know are good enough for most people. Only trades being able to pinpoint the slight dofferences beteeen each brand due to using them every day, across multiple platforms.

For the record, people do switch brands, but its not a decision taken lightly.

When i did my apprenticeship, i actually started with milwaukee. At the time there were 2 other apprentices and 3 other qualified.
3 makita
1 dewalt
1 bosch

After 5 years everyone changed except me.
Ended up with...
1 bosch
4 milwaukee
 

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Reply #2434 –
I read somewhere that the red Ozito tools in Bunnings are actually manufactured by Milwaukee.
I am only a very spasmodic DIYer these days but I have owned a red Ozito drill for many years and it has been very good.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #2435 –
Without wanting to offend the Vegetarians or Vegans among us, a warning to the beef and lamb eaters.

I have associates in the food technology sector that are telling me the combinations of fire, flood and weather are going to send beef and lamb prices skyrocketing over the next six to twelve months, this is compounded by legal requirements to fulfill quotas in export markets meaning availability of domestic supply will dwindle. It's much the same story as natural gas. So if you think beef or lamb is expensive now, just wait and see what it's like in six or twelve months.

If you've got a deep freeze the advice is look for deals and fill it now before you can't afford to fill it anymore!

Now before the Vegans and Vegetarians jump for joy.

The very same circumstances impacting the nations herds and flocks is impacting the grain, fruit and veg supply. It's all going up and there is nothing the politicians can do about it. Mother nature has voted!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #2436 –
Quote from: cookie2 – on
I read somewhere that the red Ozito tools in Bunnings are actually manufactured by Milwaukee.
I am only a very spasmodic DIYer these days but I have owned a red Ozito drill for many years and it has been very good.
Agreed, and the Ozito PxC warranty is even better for non-commercial users, you can just walk in a change your broken gadget at Bunnings no questions asked. At least that was the situation last time I checked, but it only applies to domestic users, not tradies or commercial. But I believe batteries are not covered by this warranty, only the skins. I have heard of some Bunning's Hero type managers who have tried to decline the Ozito warranty, but last time I checked it still exists for the life of the skin, although I've heard it may be reduced to 5 or 7 years.

Which ironically, the big problem for residential users is the batteries, because if they are left discharged for too long they basically die, they must be stored fully charged and recharged sporadically to stop self-discharge. Being stored discharged for long periods increases the risk of a battery fire as crystals form in the battery which bridge or pierce the dielectric layers, one of the same reasons why those old AA or AAA leak! So the business model here is they basically give you the skins as a loss leader knowing most of you will have to invest regularly in the batteries, that is why the batteries and chargers are so expensive relative to the skins. They flog the batteries as "no memory effect", which is true for residential case of partial discharge and full recharge, that wasn't the case for older style batteries that had to be fully cycled to stay healthy.

Running them to dead flat isn't inducing a memory effect, so that claim is a bit of marketing weasel wording, memory effect refers to partial discharge followed by recharge.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #2437 –
I'm a Festo man myself but Bosch for drivers/drills, use stationery machinery or corded for bigger jobs like prepping boards or decks. Most of the time I find hand tools plenty quick enough for most jobs. E.g fencing...a brace and good auger keeps smashing through Redgum posts long after all the batteries are kaputt.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #2438 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Most of the time I find hand tools plenty quick enough for most jobs. E.g fencing...a brace and good auger keeps smashing through Redgum posts long after all the batteries are kaputt.
I have to say, at least for smaller jobs around the home I've been going the same way myself. There is zero noise, and my joints don't feel the plain the next day!

On top of this I've regained a lot of temporarily lost skills, I can sharpen bits, knives and axes now to shaving sharp with little to no effort. Lately I've been searching for old style saws, no carbide teeth, I recently bought a secondhand sawtooth setting tool, and I already have the files needed to resharpen.

What's the point of spending 2hrs at gym to use a cordless drill for 30s, I hate gym, I'd much rather be at home and use the brace, an axe or a hand saw?

I still use my 650W corded AEG drill for masonry work, it's 20 years old and still got power the battery models only dream about, the new Bosch Bulldog Brushless goes close, by why bother when the AEG is still going strong.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #2439 –
Quote from: cookie2 – on
I read somewhere that the red Ozito tools in Bunnings are actually manufactured by Milwaukee.
I am only a very spasmodic DIYer these days but I have owned a red Ozito drill for many years and it has been very good.

It’s very much a use by use situation.
I use my AEG battery drill to mix 5kg batches of grout/adhesive, which it performs effortlessly.
Pre my AEG I installed a flat pack kitchen for my sister using an ozito battery drill/driver, it worked flawlessly, if all you were doing was driving screws it was unbeatable for its price.
Trying to mix that 5kg of grout however… total fail !
Let’s go BIG !

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Reply #2440 –
Being a saw doctor LP, I can hand on heart say you're going down a very constructive rabbit hole
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?