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Reply #15 –
RIP Burt Bacharach.....
One of the most influential figures in popular music history.
So many songs to choose from.
Post a selection.
(Ignore that Dick Clark idiot at the start)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYAMigvWNC0

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Reply #16 –
One of the great songwriting partnerships - Burt with Hal David.

We have a couple 'Best of' Cds (yes, still got them!) and they get a pretty high rotation.

Dione Warwick sang a heap of their tunes, along with many other well knowns incl Dusty Springfield, Cilla Black, Tom Jones, Carpenters

His music will live on for a long time yet.

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Reply #17 –
Quote from: dodge – on
One of the great songwriting partnerships - Burt with Hal David.

We have a couple 'Best of' Cds (yes, still got them!) and they get a pretty high rotation.

Dione Warwick sang a heap of their tunes, along with many other well knowns incl Dusty Springfield, Cilla Black, Tom Jones, Carpenters

His music will live on for a long time yet.

Couldn't agree more... easily one of the best. Got me thinking...

Synonymous with many huge hits: Bacharach/David, Lennon/McCartney, Jagger/Richards, Hall/Oates, Holland/Dozier/Holland... Neil Sedaka, Barry Gibb and Neil Diamond also deserve a wrap as great individual song writers. And let's not forget Neil Finn.
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Reply #18 –
Thought this was funny....Because it's true.
Stevie Nicks of Fleetwood Mac's opinion of some of the modern day artists.
 :D

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“I've never been to a strip club but I turn on MTV and see in every single video what it must look like... if you have to work so hard at appearing sexy, then perhaps you weren't that sexy after all, perhaps your music has no sensuality, perhaps your music is dull, indeed, that you have no choice but to pelvic thrust your way through a pop video in a leather bikini in order to detract from its mediocrity... it might be advisable to do something else.” ”::- Stevie Nicks

I suppose on balance though they're probably making a bit more money than Stevie ever did...still, she's not wrong.

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Reply #19 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Thought this was funny....Because it's true.
Stevie Nicks of Fleetwood Mac's opinion of some of the modern day artists.
 :D

Quote
“I've never been to a strip club but I turn on MTV and see in every single video what it must look like... if you have to work so hard at appearing sexy, then perhaps you weren't that sexy after all, perhaps your music has no sensuality, perhaps your music is dull, indeed, that you have no choice but to pelvic thrust your way through a pop video in a leather bikini in order to detract from its mediocrity... it might be advisable to do something else.” ”::- Stevie Nicks

I suppose on balance though they're probably making a bit more money than Stevie ever did...still, she's not wrong.

I'm not sure what she's on about  ;)

Actually, she does have a point and there are a lot of artists trying hard to appear sexy.  Of course, Stevie didn't have to try all that hard:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8HqQasd_OM
 
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Reply #20 –
Quote from: DJC – on
I'm not sure what she's on about  ;)

Actually, she does have a point and there are a lot of artists trying hard to appear sexy.  Of course, Stevie didn't have to try all that hard:

Saw her in 2017, I believe scheduled to be in town again next year.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #21 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Thought this was funny....Because it's true.
Stevie Nicks of Fleetwood Mac's opinion of some of the modern day artists.
 :D

Quote
“I've never been to a strip club but I turn on MTV and see in every single video what it must look like... if you have to work so hard at appearing sexy, then perhaps you weren't that sexy after all, perhaps your music has no sensuality, perhaps your music is dull, indeed, that you have no choice but to pelvic thrust your way through a pop video in a leather bikini in order to detract from its mediocrity... it might be advisable to do something else.” ”::- Stevie Nicks

I suppose on balance though they're probably making a bit more money than Stevie ever did...still, she's not wrong.

I have a somewhat unofficial rule of thumb when it comes to music.

If we lost power, could you still play the same music (or a version of).

That is, do musicians play an instrument that does not rely on a computer and can the singers sing without the need for a computer to fix it.

Rock stars might lose their electric guitars, but put an acoustic one in their hands and they can still play something very similar. They can still sing without a microphone and don't need pro-tools or auto-tune to make it sound good.

Thats stevies problem. She is a musician.
Modern 'music' doesn't have musicians. Instead there are 'artists and entertainers'. Music is secondary and fixed/made in a computer.

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Reply #22 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Modern 'music' doesn't have musicians. Instead there are 'artists and entertainers'.

Makes no sense, Krudd.  Music is an art, so probably needs musicians or artists to perform it.  The idea of a performance is to entertain, challenge, give energy, passion, emotion to the audience - and the same performance will give these differently to the members of the same audience.

What is modern music?  Seems to be from late 1800's.  Probably covers Ragtime, Blues, Jazz, Country - long time to bag some astounding musicians.

Are the following not musicians: Daft Punk, Air, Adele, Alicia Keys, Jon Baptiste, Carrie Underwood?  Was Brian Mannix a muso, Bob Dylan, Ed Sheeran?  Hiromi?

Or is it because you don't like a lot of 'modern music'?

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Reply #23 –
Quote from: dodge – on
Quote from:
Modern 'music' doesn't have musicians. Instead there are 'artists and entertainers'.

Makes no sense, Krudd.  Music is an art, so probably needs musicians or artists to perform it.  The idea of a performance is to entertain, challenge, give energy, passion, emotion to the audience - and the same performance will give these differently to the members of the same audience.

What is modern music?  Seems to be from late 1800's.  Probably covers Ragtime, Blues, Jazz, Country - long time to bag some astounding musicians.

Are the following not musicians: Daft Punk, Air, Adele, Alicia Keys, Jon Baptiste, Carrie Underwood?  Was Brian Mannix a muso, Bob Dylan, Ed Sheeran?  Hiromi?

Or is it because you don't like a lot of 'modern music'?

It's definitely personal preference, but one some others share.

Music can be entertaining and musicians are certainly artists and entertainers.

Let me ask you this....how many modern musicians are ugly?

As a music lover, I'm very much stuck in the 90s. Very few people.make it on my radar since then. Sure, there are exceptions. But imo the whole industry changed mid-late 90s.

While I was growing up on nirvana, the spice Girls and backstreet boys were being shoved down everyone's throats.
Entertaining....sure. Talented....mostly. How many of them wrote their own music? How many of them can play an instrument? Musicians?? Not really.

The 'Pop stars' is what has ruined it for me. Pre-packaged, sugary sweet, made to order, over produced eye candy.

I don't want to get into a list of yays and nays, that why i simplified it in the way I did.

Bob Dylan would never make it today. Doesn't fit into an easily marketable, digestible pre packaged form. Would get put in the too hard basket and instead they'll find some young hot teenie bopper to spit out whatever nonsense is written for them as that will make more money.

 

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Reply #24 –
It's definitely generational....and definitely personal taste.
I couldn't tell you the title of one Taylor Swift song, even though she seems to be everywhere.
Of the clips I have seen, I don't think her singing is anything special.
And I'm not sure why she has to perform in her underwear. ;)
Which makes me suspect she's one of Stevie's targets.

But her fan base is obviously considerable.
So she's doing somehing right and special.

Music is really a soundtrack to our lives.
A song can bring you instant recollections of a time or place in your life.

We didn't have a TV until I was about 6 or 7, so most of my early years was spent listening to the radio.
When we did eventually get the television it was shows like Bandstand, Six O'clock rock and the Johnny O'Keefe show that I watched.
As a result for a long time my music tastes were late 50s early 60s American and British acts (with the occasional Aussie cover versions that were usually superior to the overseas artists.)
I remember when I was about 10 the local radio station ran a poll as to whether folks thought Elvis was better than the Beatles.
I remember being quite upset when the Beatles pipped the King.
I couldn't understand it.
These days I'm a huge Beatles fan.

And that's the thing.
Rock and Roll "gave me all the best years of my life, but I was always just one step behind." ...a little late to the next big change...but I usually got there.
I still love 60's music ...all of it, from the teen idol, to the soul and motown stuff, to the British Invasion,and  to the protest era of the late 60s
But I've branched beyond that to embrace a lot of 70s ( including  the Glitter and Glam) and 80s Power Ballads-big group music.
Never did quite warm to Disco, but lately I have been listening to a bit of non-disco Bee Gees.

One of the things that really interests me is the progression of artists through the various stages, influences and groups.
You find things like Jimmy Page  (great session musician before branching out to the Yardbirds and Led Zeppelin) playing guitar on Brenda Lee records, or 60s teen idol Gene Pitney playing piano on Rolling Stones songs.
.
I don't see myself progressing much beyond the 80s in terms of musical tastes and into the more modern era....but never say never.
I thought that "Yeah, Yeah , Yeah" stuff was pretty ordinary when I first heard it ;D  ;D


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Reply #25 –
One of my oldest friends - I'll rephrase that - A friend I have known since she was 18 has a daughter who is a very successful singer/songwriter.  The daughter studied music all through secondary school and is an accomplished saxophonist and guitarist.  She formed a garage band at school and they enjoyed such success that pub venues had to have special events for them to play because they were all under 18.  She left the band to pursue a solo career and now spends much of the year touring in Australia, the USA, UK and Europe.  That's despite not appearing on "talent quests/reality TV" or pelvic thrusting in a leather bikini.  She is just a very talented musician with the ability to write songs that appeal to her peers.

And yes ... I have been the oldest person at her concerts!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaA0YgnFHl8
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Reply #26 –
Sadly true musicians and rock bands like Pink Floyd, The Who, The Doors, Queen, Rolling Stones, Zed Zeppelin, Springsteen, Bowie etc are unlikely to be seen again once they all gone.

There are many others from that great era that I've missed but that era gave us rare talents who could write their own music and/or were the very best using a instrument and seeing them live was an experience you would not forget.
 

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Reply #27 –
That post of DJC's highlights another aspect of the Music scene...which is probably still relevant with todays artists.

Sometimes it takes 10 or 20 years to be an overnight sensation.

Some of the big acts of the 70s and 80s were session musicians in the 60s and 70s.
Bands cut their teeth on the club and pub scene, building a following.

In some cases it's as bizarre as being a member of the Mickey Mouse club.
(Christina Aguilera, Justin Timberlake and Britney Spears)

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Reply #28 –
Many moons ago a close friend asked me what I'd miss most when I carked it and without thinking I said, "Music."

In many respects I feel incredibly lucky that I grew up with 50s, 60s and 70s music. But also loved so much music from the 80s, 90s and early 00s. There was only one kind of music I couldn't relate to and that was country and western. Though country crossover I did love (Gordon Lightfoot etc.). Even so many 'standards' were terrific - Sinatra etc.

Couldn't give a rats clacker as too how 'entertaining', showy or produced the music was, did it have soul ...and invariably realised how soul and talent are/were inseparable.

On reflection, and very biased and personal, my fave bands had real talent in charge of every instrument. For example, every member of Chicago, Beatles, Earth Wind & Fire, Led Zeppelin, Hall & Oates, Tears for Fears, Stones, Style Council, Elton John, ELO, Queen, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Bon Jovi, Pink Floyd, Van Halen, Linkin Park, Foo Fighters, U2 and so on, were blessed with every band member having real talent  - including superior song writers!

Singling out Chicago - multiple quality vocalists, a rarity now. Jimmy Hendrix was once asked which lead guitarist inspired him and he responded with Terry Kath (Chicago) who he thought was the best in the world!

When we listen to exceptional talent we can't (big assumption from me here) help but feel admiring and connected.

And when it comes to vocalists I still think Bobby Hatfield was the very best, and still would be ...blue-eyed soul he was labelled way back then!

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Reply #29 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
And when it comes to vocalists I still think Bobby Hatfield was the very best, and still would be ...blue-eyed soul he was labelled way back then!

Any excuse to play a song ;D  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0uUtdzy32s

The 1965 version of Unchained Melody is just about always credited as a Righteous Brothers song.
But it's a Bobby Hatfield solo.

Apparently Bill Medley lost the toss (They were doing one solo each album.) but Medley did produce the song and played piano so I guess it is a Righteous Brothers song.