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Reply #91 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
Here's one for LP to drum up some ad hominem attack over....

https://clintel.org/new-presentation-by-john-christy-models-for-ar6-still-fail-to-reproduce-trends-in-tropical-troposphere/?mc_cid=1f85683f49&mc_eid=5965e22311
People discussing what you post isn't a personal attack, never is and never was, you thinking that is possibly paranoia though.

As for the article, just debating how fast climate change is happening isn't denying that it's happening, although I suspect climate change deniers will latch onto it. The debate about whether climate change is happening is over, long ago, the debate is now turned to how fast it's happening. Shocking! :o

As the graphs in the article show, one goes up, ......................... and the other one goes up too! Even at 0.5°C it's dramatic because that 0.5°C is a number taken from a global average where the two extremes, the minimum and maximum temperatures, move further apart! ;)

"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #92 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
The old bloke lost his marbles years ago.

How are the climate clowns going to spin this one....?



Sigh. Another graduate of the Max Delbrück School Of Wit : "I don't understand this. It must be wrong."

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Reply #93 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Sigh. Another graduate of the Max Delbrück School Of Wit : "I don't understand this. It must be wrong."

@PaulP, I'm not really bothered by those who do not understand.

What really grinds for me are those who demonstrate the ability to comprehend yet choose to deliberately oppose the science and data for political, economic or social purposes, all the while recruiting an oblivious army of drones built from those who cannot comprehend themselves. Those "active deniers" are truly insidious, merchants of misery and destruction for their own perverted benefits! People like Alan "Hannibal" Jones or Andrew "Voldermort" Bolt.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #95 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Yeah, nah!

The climate is stable and it's all good  ::)

https://theconversation.com/the-texas-deep-freeze-left-the-state-in-crisis-here-are-3-lessons-for-australia-155760


America has more than enough money and knowledge to deal with something like this. This is what you get when you privatise utilities :

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/what-a-warming-australia-can-learn-from-a-frozen-texas-20210225-p575yn.html.

On day two the Fox News star host Tucker Carlson told his viewers that “a reckless reliance on windmills is the cause of this disaster,” and claimed that “the windmills froze, so the power grid failed”.

On the third day of blackouts former Texas governor Rick Perry said Texans would happily endure more “to keep the federal government out of their business” while current governor Greg Abbott appeared on another Fox News program to blame renewable energy.........................................................

He blamed the Green New Deal, a set of environmental policies championed by left-wing Democrats and partially embraced - though mostly not yet implemented - by the Biden administration.

Tim Boyd, mayor of Colorado City - which is in fact a small Texas town - told his citizens that “only the strong will survive and the weak will [perish]” in a blog post.

“No one owes you [or] your family anything; nor is it the local government’s responsibility to support you during trying times like this!” he said. “Sink or swim it’s your choice! The City and County, along with power providers or any other service owes you NOTHING! I’m sick and tired of people looking for a damn handout.”


The country is a complete cesspit of lies and corrupt ideology.

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Reply #96 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
America has more than enough money and knowledge to deal with something like this. This is what you get when you privatise utilities :

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/what-a-warming-australia-can-learn-from-a-frozen-texas-20210225-p575yn.html.

On day two the Fox News star host Tucker Carlson told his viewers that “a reckless reliance on windmills is the cause of this disaster,” and claimed that “the windmills froze, so the power grid failed”.

On the third day of blackouts former Texas governor Rick Perry said Texans would happily endure more “to keep the federal government out of their business” while current governor Greg Abbott appeared on another Fox News program to blame renewable energy.........................................................

He blamed the Green New Deal, a set of environmental policies championed by left-wing Democrats and partially embraced - though mostly not yet implemented - by the Biden administration.

Tim Boyd, mayor of Colorado City - which is in fact a small Texas town - told his citizens that “only the strong will survive and the weak will [perish]” in a blog post.

“No one owes you [or] your family anything; nor is it the local government’s responsibility to support you during trying times like this!” he said. “Sink or swim it’s your choice! The City and County, along with power providers or any other service owes you NOTHING! I’m sick and tired of people looking for a damn handout.”


The country is a complete cesspit of lies and corrupt ideology.

Reprehensible and irresponsible comments. Your final sentence, Pauly... spot on. Just appalling comments in the face of suffering citizens.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #97 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Reprehensible and irresponsible comments. Your final sentence, Pauly... spot on. Just appalling comments in the face of suffering citizens.

That country is beyond the point of no return. Ercot received warnings that their system would not cope with high demand in winter, they did f@ck all to rectify the situation because it would eat into profits.

Chris Hedges lives in Princeton NJ, one of the wealthier places in the US, and has this to say :

I live in Princeton, N.J., which is an enclave of the one per cent, and when it rains, the power goes out, and not only that, but the phone lines go down. It’s all falling apart.

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2020/09/10/analysis/end-times-american-democracy-interview-chris-hedges

And let's not forget Enron and the 2000-01 California Electricity Crisis :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000–01_California_electricity_crisis

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Reply #98 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
That country is beyond the point of no return. Ercot received warnings that their system would not cope with high demand in winter, they did f@ck all to rectify the situation because it would eat into profits.

Chris Hedges lives in Princeton NJ, one of the wealthier places in the US, and has this to say :

I live in Princeton, N.J., which is an enclave of the one per cent, and when it rains, the power goes out, and not only that, but the phone lines go down. It’s all falling apart.

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2020/09/10/analysis/end-times-american-democracy-interview-chris-hedges

And let's not forget Enron and the 2000-01 California Electricity Crisis :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000–01_California_electricity_crisis


And that's why I maintain the needless pandering and ass licking by us of that moron of a nation needs to stop. Just a bunch of imbeciles.
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Reply #100 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
https://theconversation.com/texas-was-a-warning-australia-needs-to-rethink-the-design-of-its-electricity-market-155856

Thank you, Pauly, for introducing me to The Conversation some time ago. I get their daily news and along with a couple of others, they are my 'must reads' of the day. Such a pleasure to read objective, informed journalism.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #101 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Thank you, Pauly, for introducing me to The Conversation some time ago. I get their daily news and along with a couple of others, they are my 'must reads' of the day. Such a pleasure to ready objective, informed journalism.

Thanks. Yes, I agree. I'm sure many on the right will think it's full of leftist academics who are "out of touch with reality" lol.

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Reply #102 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Thank you, Pauly, for introducing me to The Conversation some time ago. I get their daily news and along with a couple of others, they are my 'must reads' of the day. Such a pleasure to ready objective, informed journalism.
You can get the new Podcast to listen to as well, if you are so inclined.

The Conversation has gone off a bit in recent years, it was more balanced when it first started but is now slowly becoming swamped by socialist political opinion. It hardly ever use to post political commentary when it started, but back then it had very little humanities content!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #103 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
https://theconversation.com/texas-was-a-warning-australia-needs-to-rethink-the-design-of-its-electricity-market-155856
USA is a lot different to Australia, the American electrical grid overall was built in the 60's and has been poorly maintained because suppliers are investor based companies looking to save money and pay shareholders. Its a hybrid mixture in technology which will always fall over with even slight extremes in weather.
Wind Turbines give practically nothing to the grid in Australia so this source failing/freezing isnt relevant to us, a lot of the States in the USA run as independent nations unlike Australia where Victoria and NSW for example are happy to help each other and also help South Australia that has trouble supplying especially in outer areas and also struggles during extreme heat.
The Texas grid is isolated and connected to nothing else, in tropical(joking) Canada its different....Every Canadian province along the U.S. border is electrically interconnected with a neighbouring U.S. state or states, with many provinces boasting multiple international connections. The result is a reliable grid on both sides of the border.
Its not a retail problem its a political problem causing a technical problem.


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Reply #104 –
Texas is simply today's bad example. The culture that gives rise to their predicament is rampant, and manifests itself at all levels of American society.