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Reply #210 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Need to rebuild this test team.

Maxwell at six, rotate the bowlers through the side more.   They look shot.

India will go close to winning this.
I'd bat Green at five and look at another allrounder at six, IMO Green is a batsman who I dont want burdened with too much bowling given his back looks to be still troubling him when he bowls as he doesnt stretch out. He is a good cricketer and I'd be wanting him as a batsman in the main.
I think we also need to look at Starc and Nathan Lyon being automatics as well.....Starc hasnt performed and I'd be looking at other quicks like Pattinson if fit.  I'd also be looking to play another spinner preferably a leggie depending on the wicket. Lyon has been a good bowler but he lacks penetration at times and on flat tracks I think a leggie on Aus  wickets is more dangerous.
Been impressed with Gill of India....calm temperament and very stylish, he will carve at some big scores given he can handle the bounce out here. I guess you have to expect India to have depth given their massive population and love of the game so its no surprise their B grade/net players are competent cricketers.

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Reply #211 –
How humiliating to lose a test series to a “c” grade group of Indians. On Australian home soil. Sack the coach, selectors etc. Including a few players. Just keep letting sides break records that have stood for years dishing up rubbish cricket.
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Reply #212 –
Ducking disgraceful.

Watching Cummins bowl himself to exhaustion because they can't afford to go to Starc makes me angry. Hazekwoiod the same.  Where's the support!?!

Starc to never,  ever, ever,  play for Australia again.  Really,  really weak effort.

And we've got to many slow,  pathetic fielders like Harris.  Too fat and slow,  have to hide him because it's always two to him.

So angry right now.   Needed to set 350, didn't get it,  bowled wrong lines, lost to a third string side.   Pathetic and Paine will probably retire after this.
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Reply #213 –
Beaten by a superior team / organisation. Aussies thought they just had to turn up after going 1-0. Bowlers failed, batsman failed, some serious soul searching I would have thought.
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Reply #214 –
Quote from: Mantis – on
How humiliating to lose a test series to a “c” grade group of Indians. On Australian home soil. Sack the coach, selectors etc. Including a few players. Just keep letting sides break records that have stood for years dishing up rubbish cricket.
Makes us D grade then
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Reply #215 –
About as bad as it gets, Paine and Langar have to go IMO Paine just lets the game drift, over bowls Cummins and has no idea about field placings.
We learn nothing about bowling to Pant who just loves Aus conditions and probably turned the series, bowl the same lines hoping he will get himself out because we think he is just a slogger and start with the field back like we are bowling to a tailender.
Paine lets him play himself in and once he is in then he takes over. Starc as Prof said just bowled crape and gave up when Gill climbed into him and Lyon bowled like a Goat this series, the type that gets milked for runs.
Time for changes and a rebuild....

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Reply #216 –
Great win by the Indian second stringers - well deserved. Showed real grit and determination. Well done. 

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Reply #217 –
Lyon spent most of this match bowling the wrong line.   There was plenty there for him when started putting it outside off.

Bad captaincy and bad coaching.
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Reply #218 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Great win by the Indian second stringers - well deserved. Showed real grit and determination. Well done. 
Paul, Did they win it or did we lose it?..Credit to them as you say and some of their players were actually 3rd stringers who were not even in the test squad. This will go down in Indian cricket history as their greatest series win, this is probably better than our 1970 comeback vs the Pies to win the GF.

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Reply #219 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Great win by the Indian second stringers - well deserved. Showed real grit and determination. Well done. 
Indeed Paul. I heard SOD not he radio say the other day, what if the roles were reversed and the series was being played in India and the Aussies had their backs against the wall with their captain returning home and losing key players (say Smith, Labuschagne, Cummins etc), would the Aussies muster the courage to grind out wins? The no answer was resoundingly popular.
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Reply #220 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Paul, Did they win it or did we lose it?..Credit to them as you say and some of their players were actually 3rd stringers who were not even in the test squad. This will go down in Indian cricket history as their greatest series win, this is probably better than our 1970 comeback vs the Pies to win the GF.
You can only beat what's in front of you EB. The Indians showed grit, determination, courage, you name it. It was a great performance, Aussies got too darken cocky and they got their just deserts.
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Reply #221 –
I reckon losing bowlers was a positive as they kept bringing in fresh players.   We just flogged the same group.

Ego and reputation is driving selection,  not production.   It has to stop.
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Reply #222 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Lyon spent most of this match bowling the wrong line.   There was plenty there for him when started putting it outside off.

Bad captaincy and bad coaching.
I'd like to see a young leg spinner introduced so we have more firepower, Lyon bowls well in Perth and Adelaide but is nothing special anywhere else...think his best at Brisbane is 4/69 so he isnt likely to run through a team and win you the game on the last day. He is economical but his test average overall is around 31-32 which isnt anything special IMO.

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Reply #223 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Paul, Did they win it or did we lose it?..Credit to them as you say and some of their players were actually 3rd stringers who were not even in the test squad. This will go down in Indian cricket history as their greatest series win, this is probably better than our 1970 comeback vs the Pies to win the GF.

It's a hard question to answer EB, as it is with any game in any sport - both teams play their part. The Aussies had everything in their favor - ground, experience, history. I would have thought they would win easily, even if they played an ordinary, half rat juice brand.

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Reply #224 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
You can only beat what's in front of you EB. The Indians showed grit, determination, courage, you name it. It was a great performance, Aussies got too darken cocky and they got their just deserts.
Dont disagree...we underestimated their fight and spirit and thought they would roll over but these modern Indian players are different and Kholi/Shastri have changed their mindset.
They play hard cricket and we are stuck in the past trying to play mind games instead of doing our homework on their players and concentrating on the basics. Paine and Langar have got to go and we need a fresh start with a captain and coach who can think/react better when the games on the line.