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Reply #1740 –
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Comprehensive win as was always the most likely outcome. 

Excellent bowling from Neser in the Poms' second innings and Steve Smith certainly seemed to have an important engagement that he he was keen to get to ASAP.

Pat Cummins will be back for the Adelaide Test and Lyon will probably pass the drinks tray to someone else.  Which two bowlers will miss out?
Neser and Doggett, need the specialist spinner and extra pace/bouncer ability on a flatter track which will help England's flat track bully batsman more.
Bazball might be history by the end of the series along with its architects...

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Reply #1741 –
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Neser and Doggett, need the specialist spinner and extra pace/bouncer ability on a flatter track which will help England's flat track bully batsman more.
Bazball might be history by the end of the series along with its architects...

Both unlucky, particularly Neser after his five for.

I don't mind Bazball - both as a concept and a spectacle - but you do need a plan B.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

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Reply #1742 –
Quote from: DJC – on
I don't mind Bazball - both as a concept and a spectacle - but you do need a plan B.
Yes, they've mistakenly taken the Dougie Walters / Adam Gilchrist "100 in a session" spirit and tried to turn it into the default game tactic. But you just can't ride your luck for that long, especially given that the bowlers are now better prepared than ever before to deal with such tactics.

Also, Test Cricket does not get played on ODI or T20 pitches, so for me the Bazball style should always be selectively applied.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #1743 –
Adelaide is usually a batting wicket, they may swap Doggett for Cummins and bring Lyon in for someone like Inglis, Inglis is wasted at 7 anyway and Cummins isn't a spud.

That leaves them Lyon with a chop out from Head for the spin variations.

Of course maybe Starc needs a rest, but to do that you'd have to be willing to load up Cummins.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #1744 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Neser and Doggett, need the specialist spinner and extra pace/bouncer ability on a flatter track which will help England's flat track bully batsman more.
Bazball might be history by the end of the series along with its architects...

Both unlucky, particularly Neser after his five for.

I don't mind Bazball - both as a concept and a spectacle - but you do need a plan B.
Bazball is an excuse for poor technique and a lack of willingness to grind when necessary with both bat and ball which also indicates poor/lazy application. Throwing the bat at everything vs good line and length bowling works 1/10 times and having a plan B bowling strategy of 6 bouncers an over might work vs hapless teams like the Windies but wont vs the better teams.

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Reply #1745 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: DJC – on


Both unlucky, particularly Neser after his five for.

I don't mind Bazball - both as a concept and a spectacle - but you do need a plan B.
Bazball is an excuse for poor technique and a lack of willingness to grind when necessary with both bat and ball which also indicates poor/lazy application. Throwing the bat at everything vs good line and length bowling works 1/10 times and having a plan B bowling strategy of 6 bouncers an over might work vs hapless teams like the Windies but wont vs the better teams.

The basic philosophy - removing fear of failure - is fine, but that doesn't compensate for poor technique, tactics or decision-making.

Apparently, Warnie is the inspiration for Bazball, but the way the Poms are going about it lacks Warnie's understanding of the game situation and appreciating the nuances of the game.  Jim Maxwell summed it up with his "Baz Bollocks" comment.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

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Reply #1746 –
Boycott reckons his mother could bat better with a stick of rubarb. haha

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Reply #1747 –
Steve Smith is getting on a bit for an elite sportsman and I don't think that he'd pass a skinfold test.  That's a little surprising given the energy he must burn while in perpetual motion at the batting crease.

This is not fat shaming as I'm more than happy to see elite sportsmen and women who aren't built like racing greyhounds.  It makes me not so worried about not being able to see my toes   :)

"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

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Reply #1748 –
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Boycott reckons his mother could bat better with a stick of rubarb. haha
The English press certainly do not hold back. Our media is far from blameless, but I doubt we'd see quite the same level of hate being expressed.
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Reply #1749 –
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Quote from: bratblue – on
Boycott reckons his mother could bat better with a stick of rubarb. haha
The English press certainly do not hold back. Our media is far from blameless, but I doubt we'd see quite the same level of hate being expressed.
You go from chocolates to boiled lollies very quickly over there.

Its the nature of English sports.  They need something to write about.  Follow the EPL for a season.  They display Carlton like pressure cooker in the media.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
 

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Reply #1750 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Quote from: crashlander – on
The English press certainly do not hold back. Our media is far from blameless, but I doubt we'd see quite the same level of hate being expressed.
You go from chocolates to boiled lollies very quickly over there.

Its the nature of English sports.  They need something to write about.  Follow the EPL for a season.  They display Carlton like pressure cooker in the media.

More like chocolates to rotten eggs :)

But then the Barmy Army will stick by their team.  I guess that they have a good time win, lose or draw.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

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Reply #1751 –
Mark Wood done for the series, yet again injured and he should retire from test cricket. Been replaced by Matthew Fisher who has been touring with the English Lions who shadow the test team as a reserves type outfit. Fisher who has the one test wicket is a fairly nondescript  typical English seamer who wont trouble too many Aus batters imo if he does get to play a test or two.
Not to be confused with the young NZ quick of the same name who is a lot quicker and looks promising.
Im tipping Archer will be the next English bowler to pick up an injury and need a rest and while England Im sure will improve via the law of averages and probably win at least one test I think Aus can send Bazball on its way with a 4-1 scoreline.