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Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #135 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Plowman had 10 marks for the night, the most of any player. He had 4 intercept marks, placing him 2nd behind Darcy Moore, and equal with Jones.

They didn't concede 7 or 8 goals.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
 

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #136 –
Quote from: LP – on
It doesn't matter who your direct opponent is when you are left guarding 2 or 3. Sooner or later you have to pick an opponent and move towards one of them, and you have to watch the ball user to decide that early enough and hope they pull the trigger early, not your opponent.

You're missing my point .... he wasn't guarding two or three, he had responsibility for one.  And so it passes to other defenders to do theirs.  Fly and punch to contested swarms when necessary, sure, but one on one, he wasn't up to it.  Too slow on the uptake

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #137 –
Quote from: capcom – on
You're missing my point .... he wasn't guarding two or three, he had responsibility for one.  And so it passes to other defenders to do theirs.  Fly and punch to contested swarms when necessary, sure, but one on one, he wasn't up to it.  Too slow on the uptake
What part of the ground where you watching from, the angle you viewed?

On the replay there was a wide shot as the commentators reviewed the play, I can't recall if it was during the quarter or in the post match, but just as Dusty kicks the camera cuts wide and it shows Plowman stuck between Nthmond players, they split in different directions and Plowman is momentarily left not knowing which way to go. Plowman's choice is a roll of the dice.

If I was our coach, I'd be asking a much much harder question, how Riewoldt is left with 20m of clear free space to lead into inside F50 from the slow set F50 entry? What you might see if we got all the angles, and I can't confirm this, would be several of our Mids running to the bench when they should be defending. I've seen this over and over again at the ground in recent years, it's amateur at best. Our defenders are left guessing against multiple opponents, and when they guess wrong they look like a goose!
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #138 –
Good to see that Luke Parks has been named to definitely play on Sunday... out Willo?
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #139 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
They didn't concede 7 or 8 goals.

So did Moore but he conceded 4. Can't be conceding 4 or 7 goals no matter how well you play as a defender. Stopping your opponent scoring is the first responsibility. Moore saved alot but Harry's 4 goals helped keep us in it when we shouldn't have been.

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #140 –
Quote from: laj – on
So did Moore but he conceded 4. Can't be conceding 4 or 7 goals no matter how well you play as a defender. Stopping your opponent scoring is the first responsibility. Moore saved alot but Harry's 4 goals helped keep us in it when we shouldn't have been.

I thought Harry and Moore had a great contest, both played well but I think McKay took the honours..

Plowman was smashed by everyone he played on. I'm not canning the bloke, he tried his best but he just isn't good enough.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #141 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
I thought Harry and Moore had a great contest, both played well but I think McKay took the honours..
Really? :o

I think Moore was probably BoG, and triggered multiple chains of play that created a significant portion of the Filth's goals.

Some of Big H's goals were effectively Dorothy Dixers.

For reference (AFLCA);
9 - Taylor Adams (COLL)
8 - Darcy Moore (COLL)
7 - Jack Crisp (COLL)
2 - Brodie Grundy (COLL)
2 - Jordan De Goey (COLL)
2 - Scott Pendlebury (COLL)
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #142 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Good to see that Luke Parks has been named to definitely play on Sunday... out Willo?
Hard to say, having lost two already you wouldn't think there would be many more changes, I think if you get to 3 or 5 changes in a week you are basically expecting to lose.

SoJ probably deserves to return, if he passes a fitness test. Maybe sMurph out for Betts, I think it's quite probably those two will swap places on and off during the season. But with Fisher already out perhaps Betts is in an sMurph stays.

So maybe Williamson for SoJ?

Be interesting to see how Parks goes against the much heavier bodies of the AFL, his highlights suggest he plays in quite a combative style throwing himself at the footy not unlike Hunter.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #143 –
Now there’s one from left field!!

‘ CARLTON will blood its fourth club debutant in three games this Sunday.

Confirmed by Senior Coach David Teague on Thursday, rookie Luke Parks will become Blue No.1222 when he runs out against Fremantle.’

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #144 –
I said Moore played well but so did Harry.

2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #145 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
They didn't concede 7 or 8 goals.

You can't let the accuracy or otherwise of the goal kicker colour your perception of the defenders. If Moore had four goals kicked on him, and Plowman 7 behinds, does that mean Plowman did a better job ? Surely what happens after the defender has been outpointed is beyond his control, as is what happens further up the ground. 

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #146 –
At any rate, if what the majority on here say is true, then Plowman should be dropped, which should be easy seeing as how we have 8000 backmen, defenders, HBF, etc.

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #147 –
Luke Parks is apparently an intercept defender, so Plowman might be out.

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #148 –
As ordinary as Plowman has been, I think it'll be Williamson that gets the chop this week.....Freo have some dangerous small forwards, especially if Walters comes back in....Williamson isn't a lock down sort and has been caught out for having no right foot too many times. I'd be getting Kennedy in to play midfield this week and give Cripps some support....he's not getting any from the likes of Setterfield....and Kennedy can push forward and mark/kick goals.

Glad that Parks is getting a shot at it but have to wonder what Stocker needs to do to get a game.

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #149 –
Id rather plowman play.  We are short bodies. 
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