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That's an oversimplification.

We do have good ball users - just used out of position - or not at all - or injured.

SPS is an excellent ball user/decision maker. Need to be in the guts.

Williams looks injured. Martin is injured. Saad looks injured too.

Stocker must come in next week - he's probably the only player on our list who's elite off both feet.

The Guv is an excellent ball user but appears too embarrassed to be part of our team to want to bother....

Murphy's a good ball user - for mine, he's either an on baller or not in the 22.

Betts is an exceptional ball user - watch his 3rd quarter last night.

People who suggest he's cooked? Laughable.

He's (presently) less cooked than Cripps, Williams (both injured), Murphy, Doc, Curnow and Newnes.

Something else its a system of......following the captains lead.

IMO Cripps was the most selfish of all, most individual of all.
Teague needs to give him both barrels in the review.

"If you are running through the centre and have a good kicking teammate next to you.....give it to him! You do not finish off enough of those kicks and we get hurt on the rebound because of it.....and you can't/don't chase. So either learn to kick, or better yet, don't attempt it! Next time you burn a teammate by not giving a handball, you are dropped!"

If he doesn't like it, start working on a trade back to WA now.

As a captain of the club, its simply not good enough, week in week out. Multiple times a game.

I don't see it as an oversimplification.  A good ball user is a good ball user no matter what position they are played.

Our turnovers by foot game after game  are an embarrassment.



I see Murphy as a good ball user to a limited degree - he lacks penetration and struggles to make a 40 metre kick.

Guv wouldn't be considered by a top side yet we keep selecting him because of lack of depth.

Mcgovern is expected to be a key player with us but was just the 4th forward at the Crows.
He is a finisher/accessory player who needs delivery and a weak opponent, not the likes of Alir who ran off him all the time in the first half. Just the wrong player for us and would be better suited at West Coast when Allen takes JKs spot.

Agree Pauly, I care little for what the media say or think, to call them parasites is being kind. Internally however is another matter, Teague will be under pressure without wins no matter who the opposition is.

He supposed to be a 3rd forward here too to play a similar role.

I don't think our forward line functioned very well (obviously) - seriously missed Jack. McGovern is a poor replacement at this stage.

But their back line was able to put our forwards under pressure. Ours was not. Our back line is a joke.

Teague deserves quite a lot of criticism- as does the selection committee. Too many moves just haven't worked. Picking Williamson was a disaster. Samo at half back just has not worked. Cunningham sitting in the 2s is just ridiculous. We need Newman back desperately and we need to play Jack Martin at half back or Jack Silvagni or Cunningham or Stocker. The guys we've got are not up to it... And it is frustratingly obvious yet Teague keeps fronting up with the same sh1ttruck defence getting the same sh1tty result every time we get under scoreboard pressure. 

Having said all that I actually think things aren't quite as bad as they seem. We had more clearances, inside 50s, etc. than a team that is pretty hard at it. There is definitely something to work with. We just can't get anywhere near a decent run with injuries. How much fun would it be to see how good we could be with Charlie, Jack, TDK, Marchbank, Martin, Newman, Fisher, Kemp, etc. in the team?

Seem like 2 or 3 years of constantly dealing with a quarter to a third of our best team out injured every week.