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Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #105 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Developed? I've been calling him Paul bower for a whole now. He's always done it, now people are starting to notice.
He wasn't always like that, when he started he was contested marking gold, but I think injuries have cruelled his way of play. Now he looks like he is trying to be a Simmo but without the physical contact.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #106 –
What other options do we have in terms of a "mobile forward" if we drop Casboult and play McGovern in the ruck? JSOS is out injured and Kennedy obviously has his papers stamped. Jones is playing his best football as an intercept marking defender. As a ruckman he'll just jump high and bash it....hoping one of our midfielders can latch onto it first....there won't be any science too it.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #107 –
Speaking of SOS recruits, Jarred Garlett played his first game for Railways up here in the GNFL over the weekend....kicked 4 but wasn't in the best players.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #108 –
I think our bigger problem is BigH.

He's in good personal form, but he's not doing things right by the team. We want him to be committed to the contest, but we need him to be smarter, in kicking his 6 or 7 he is probably at times costing guys like McGovern, Cripps and Betts easy set shots. Too often BigH is dragging his opponent into the contest when we have a clear advantage inside F50. It's good to see him hungry, but it'd be better to see him get creative.

Fans are all over BigH, but a good percentage of his goals come from team-mates sacrificing and they get no credit, team-mates can't say the same about BigH!

It's like being back in the FevCycle, great to watch, but doesn't really help.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #109 –
Quote from: WASurfer – on
What other options do we have in terms of a "mobile forward" if we drop Casboult and play McGovern in the ruck? JSOS is out injured and Kennedy obviously has his papers stamped. Jones is playing his best football as an intercept marking defender. As a ruckman he'll just jump high and bash it....hoping one of our midfielders can latch onto it first....there won't be any science too it.
I think McGovern in the ruck is fanciful, I'd rather Jones as a backup to the backup ruck and stick McGovern down back to cover.
191cm vs Gawn, NicNat etc is a slaughter, even the Essendon spuds like Philips would enjoy that matchup and thats not McGoverns fault. If he can kick 2 goals a week and stick to the basics like he did vs Brisbane I'll call that a win and be happy to leave him where is comfortable. You also have the injury factor with him, he never plays a full season and having some 100kg plus giant run into him for 5-10 minutes a quarter is looking for trouble IMHO.
We really need to look for another moneyball ruckman as backup and get TDK back in the team.....Stef Martin was such a great pickup for the Dogs, no world beater but a big frame to asborb punishment just break even and let the kid English do his thing.
Pittonet can do that but we need another like Martin as backup as TDK does get injured a bit and Levi is on his last legs as a player.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #110 –
Quote from: Pratty – on
Who knows what's going to happen, but I'd take the Band-Aid off and make a few changes.

Out - Betts, Murphy, Newnes, Casboult
In - Setterfield, Dow, Kennedy, O'Brien

B: Plowman, Weitering, Jones
Hb: Williams, Docherty, Saad
C: Cottrell, Walsh, O'Brien
Hf: Fogarty, McGovern, Petrevski-Seton
F: Gibbons, McKay, Cripps
Foll: Pittonet, Stocker
Rov: Cuningham
I/c: Setterfield, Dow, Kennedy, E.Curnow
Emg: Ramsay, Owies, Honey, Casboult

Love this Pratty (although not sold on LOB & I’d invest in Honey first)

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #111 –
Quote from: Pratty – on
Who knows what's going to happen, but I'd take the Band-Aid off and make a few changes.

Out - Betts, Murphy, Newnes, Casboult
In - Setterfield, Dow, Kennedy, O'Brien

B: Plowman, Weitering, Jones
Hb: Williams, Docherty, Saad
C: Cottrell, Walsh, O'Brien
Hf: Fogarty, McGovern, Petrevski-Seton
F: Gibbons, McKay, Cripps
Foll: Pittonet, Stocker
Rov: Cuningham
I/c: Setterfield, Dow, Kennedy, E.Curnow
Emg: Ramsay, Owies, Honey, Casboult


I understand your frustration with our side and your wanting to make changes.

But to me the side you have selected just exposes how weak our list is.  For example, Pittonet is the one and only ruckman in your side. Who relieves him?  If we use McGovern, who goes to CHF?

Setterfield and Dow are average at best with ball disposal and like O'Brien can go missing for periods of time during the game.  If they were all to go missing at the same time as Cuningham then we would be in real trouble.

We are so short of KPPs and a ruckman that picking a side with what is available is just changing deck chairs.......

 

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #112 –
Could we pinch hit with Kennedy as a ruck follower?
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #113 –
Hopefully we put everyone back in their right spots. Teague is over complicating it putting blokes in unsuited positions. Williams to half back, Stocker into the midfield for starters. Same for everyone else.

If we play Casboult send him back and either he or Jones can play loose. If we drop Levi then we'll have no choice but to use Jones as a back up ruck. Would we send him forward then to do Levi's, role with McGovern back, or just let him stay in defence and back up ruck from there as Casboult did in 2019?

That is the issue dropping Casboult but he is so badly out of form. Certainly not the right player to come off an interrupted pre-season as he is totally a confidence player. When his confidence is high he plays well, kicks straight, when it's not he is terrible and can't hit the side of a barn door from point blank range.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #114 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Could we pinch hit with Kennedy as a ruck follower?

Maybe but he can’t jump

Jones or McGovern could benefit from some time on the ball and as others have said, it wouldn’t be the dumbest thing to play Levi back if we are to retain him. Given results to date,  I’m not sure why we’re so afraid to take a risk.

I just can’t rationalise Newnes over Dow or Setterfield or Murphy/Betts over Honey....we have all to gain nothing to lose! It’s so simple.
 

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #115 –
Quote from: JonDorotich – on
I just can’t rationalise Newnes over Dow or Setterfield or Murphy/Betts over Honey....we have all to gain nothing to lose! It’s so simple.

You happy to sacrifice chances of wins....thats what we've got to lose.

You happy to get thumped? Thats what we've got to lose.

Confidence....thats what we've got to lose.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #116 –
Clubs are looking at Jack Hayes from Woodville West Torrens, 194cm key forward who is now rucking and playing that dual role.
Good athlete, strong mark and someone will pick him up imo.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #117 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
You happy to sacrifice chances of wins....thats what we've got to lose.

You happy to get thumped? Thats what we've got to lose.

Confidence....thats what we've got to lose.

If we’re banking on a couple of guys 3 years post retirement and an ex- list clogger from st kilda to give us confidence god help us.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #118 –
Arguably our most important game so far this season.

We need to have our best possible match-ups out there.
We have to be pretty sure with players returning  from injury, and if there's a doubt don't play them.
I don't think we should make too many changes.
These  guys don't have to lift a lot from last week to win this game.
...and a win is pretty vital for a whole lot of reasons.

Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #119 –
We can't lose this game, we just can't.

2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!