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Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #30 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/929160/-it-was-pretty-much-done-jones-opens-up-on-renaissance

Straight from the horse's mouth - Jones doesn't know who exactly made the decision to move him back, but he gives credit to Josh Fraser for making it work, and Dale Amos to a lesser extent.
Teague also praised Fraser in his presser the other day for Jonesy's move down back.
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Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #31 –
I'm sure a few years back it came out that it was Paul Brodie who made the suggestion, of course he didn't make it happen, that was Fraser and I'm very sad Fraser is no longer associated with Carlton because anyone who been to a VFL game will tell you he's a A-Grade coach.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #32 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/929160/-it-was-pretty-much-done-jones-opens-up-on-renaissance

Straight from the horse's mouth - Jones doesn't know who exactly made the decision to move him back, but he gives credit to Josh Fraser for making it work, and Dale Amos to a lesser extent.

He is always extremely articulate and personable when interviewed.

Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #33 –
Quote from: LP – on
I'm sure a few years back it came out that it was Paul Brodie who made the suggestion, of course he didn't make it happen, that was Fraser and I'm very sad Fraser is no longer associated with Carlton because anyone who been to a VFL game will tell you he's a A-Grade coach.

it was Brodie

https://www.examiner.com.au/story/5274016/liam-jones-unlikely-comeback-comes-full-circle/

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Early in the 2017 VFL season Jones, out of desperation, was thrown into the backline for the Northern Blues at the suggestion of Carlton recruiter Paul Brodie.

Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #34 –
When are they going to post the bloody sides,  it's getting beyond joke
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?
 

Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #37 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
I listened to the whole podcast, and Jones didn't mention Brodie's name once. It's not a major issue, but I do prefer having the right information.

I thought you said  Jones didn't know exactly who was responsible...
Tell him it was Brodie ;)

Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #38 –
Quote from: Lods – on
I thought you said  Jones didn't know exactly who was responsible...
Tell him it was Brodie ;)

I did say that, because that's exactly what Jones said.

I'll pass on the message.  ;D

Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #39 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
I did say that, because that's exactly what Jones said.

I'll pass on the message.  ;D

Lots of the articles are behind a paywall Paul.... but Google "Liam Jones and Paul Brodie" and the summaries indicate it was Brodie who first suggested  the idea, and the coaches gave it a try.

Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #40 –
In fairness to Brodie, Fraser and Jones, there is a hell of a difference between the suggestion and the implementation.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #41 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Lots of the articles are behind a paywall Paul.... but Google "Liam Jones and Paul Brodie" and the summaries indicate it was Brodie who first suggested  the idea, and the coaches gave it a try.

I don't know what to tell you Lods. Jones mentions plenty of people in that interview : Matthew Scarlett, Rodney Eade, Josh Bruce, Josh Fraser, Kade Simpson, Bolts, his parents, siblings, former team mates............I can't remember them all. Given that the interview was ostensibly a casual chat about his journey to 150 games, it would, IMO, be a significant oversight and / or slap in the face if he left out the one person who came up with the idea. He says he was stuck on 80 odd games and well on track to being delisted, before being moved back.

Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #42 –
Quote from: LP – on
In fairness to Brodie, Fraser and Jones, there is a hell of a difference between the suggestion and the implementation.

Yes, notwithstanding all of the above, moving a failed forward to the backline is not exactly an earth shatteringly original idea - it seems to happen every season. Making the move a successful one is another matter entirely.

Re: Pre game prosecution: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #43 –
I find the the omission of SPS hard to believe!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #44 –
Doggies  No Martín or English, that hurts their structure big time!!  Silvagni, Williams IN  SPS, Dow, McGovern out

Medical sub from DeKoning, SPS, Dow, Setterfield