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Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #105 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
We got beaten by a team that had our measure from the bounce.  I find the commentary surrounding it very interesting.

Food for thought, Mitch Wallis played in the VFL on the weekend.  He would be a walk up start for us currently.   Speaks volumes. 

With Guv and SOJ injured, yes. Otherwise no.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #106 –
It takes several years to build a team like the Dogs. Several years of staying composed and sticking to the task, several years of stability. It takes longer to build a team like that if you keep changing things every 5 minutes. The teams that have had dynasties in recent times have all stayed focussed and had years of stability before their tenure at the top.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #107 –
Quote from: LP – on
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Not sure how this will go down, but it's almost time for Cripps and others to play 2nd fiddle to Walsh, the kid is getting better under more duress! He's an enigma and could end up as good as Diesel! Fans might be cynical because they only remember the good Diesel, but when Diesel started he was slow and couldn't hit a barn with a kick from 20m. Then pretty much over one solitary pre-season he taught himself serious left and right side kicking to 35m and became a superstar!

btw., I think that is the trick to getting more out of Cripps, improve his left and right side so that he can go either way. Forget all the sprint shizen and contested marking, goal kicking, leave him powerful and give him the gift of time and space by allowing him to turn either way and kick accurately to about 35m!

This is a good point IMO. Sam Mitchell and Diesel should be his points of reference.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #108 –
I expect Williams,  and possibly Cripps,  to be "managed" this week, when in reality both should be simply dropped and given a rocket.   Williams is taking the piss with his mediocre output thus far and Cripps - I just  don't know - seems so far removed from the player he has been it's sad,  really worrying.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #109 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
I expect Williams,  and possibly Cripps,  to be "managed" this week, when in reality both should be simply dropped and given a rocket.   Williams is taking the piss with his mediocre output thus far and Cripps - I just  don't know - seems so far removed from the player he has been it's sad,  really worrying.
Both be managed as their are obviously carrying injuring. Media have been on to it,club keeps denying it. Good players don't play that crappy. Cripps has been one of the superstars of the comp but now struggles to get a kick. Has to be a reason for that. Carrying 3 injured blokes can't help.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #110 –
My fault. I looked up the live ladder when 27pts up so see how close we were to the 8. A couple more goals would've done it. From that moment it was downhill...lol.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #111 –
Williams has bone bruising on his ankle I think it is. Why on earth he is just not given 4 weeks or whatever off and the Club come out and say so is doing no one any favours.

Re other players to invite in to the Club in the off season, apart from rold gold types like free agent Zach Merrett, I'd be keen on established Premiership players, as I have said a number of times before.

Our Club lacks high standards and expectations and lacks a winning culture.

Josh Caddy (contracted for 2022 but can't get a game), Kamdyn McIntosh (uncontracted end of 2021), Jason Castagna (uncontracted end of 2021). All Premiership players and would add to our winning culture that we have basically none of.

As for our coaching group, apart from Luke Power, none of our coaches have any Premiership winning experience I don't think either.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #112 –
Watching the VFL game - Corey Durdin brings the tackle, harassing and chasing pressure, hardness and intensity that we lack. I'd play him this week.

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Reply #113 –
Quote from: Pratty – on
Watching the VFL game - Corey Durdin brings the tackle, harassing and chasing pressure, hardness and intensity that we lack. I'd play him this week.
 In for Gibbons?
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #114 –
Quote from: LP – on
In for Gibbons?
Gibbons hasn't troubled the scorers since rnd 3. Time for a run in the 2s.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #115 –
I think when comparing Gibbons 2021 to Gibbons 2020 or 2019 he has changed his game, is that Gibbons or coaching?

Statistically not much has changed, but perhaps the arrival of Betts and the increased presence of McKay subtracts a bit from Gibbons potential. Plus we now have Fisher concentrating on SFP and Fogarty, it must make a difference.

Perhaps opposition are now also making him more accountable, having his opponent push forward forcing Gibbons to spend more time defending. But that can be an MC issue as well, they must manage the balance of who defends versus who attacks.

I feel Gibbons needs to add a new dimension to his game, whether that is in and under, or marking, he needs to broaden his influence.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #116 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Gibbons hasn't troubled the scorers since rnd 3. Time for a run in the 2s.
Agree, been a fan as I am of most ex VFL moneyball players but MG hasnt kicked on this season and he is looking less likely as a mid to long term option with his present form.
I'd like to play Honey and get a more vigorous player into the team , if we have to replace like for like then I would take up Prattys suggestion and play Corey Durdin who looks a capable prospect and is quicker than Gibbons.
Be a No to LOB and Dow.....

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Reply #117 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Be a No to LOB and Dow.....
LOB has looked good at VFL level, why not try him on a wing?
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #118 –
Quote from: LP – on
LOB has looked good at VFL level, why not try him on a wing?
Wasnt in the best players this week, previous week played with a lack of interest like he knows its over...
CARLTON
Goal Kickers: B. Crocker 4, J. Honey 2, M. Kennedy, T. North
Best Players: S. Radovanovic, C. Durdin, J. Honey, T. Williamson, N. Newman, T. De Koning

IMHO...Honey and Durdin deserve a game ahead of LOB and Dow.
My ins would be TDK and one of Honey or Durdin......JSOS(inj) and Gibbons out....and I'd think about making the sub the one out of Honey or Durdin who misses out and SPS can have a full game in the twos.

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Reply #119 –
Quote from: LP – on
LOB has looked good at VFL level, why not try him on a wing?
Christ LP. If you watch the game he played yesterday you wouldn't be saying that.