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Reply #660 –
Spot on Kruddler.

I don't know why everyone gets caught up in the salaries of free agents and trades.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: Review

Reply #661 –
Quote from: laj – on
BREAKING, via Jon Anderson: "As Carlton continues a review into its football department, some findings can be revealed & don’t make for pretty reading for those in charge.
For those desperate to know how the Carlton review will go, buckle your seat belts & get ready for change.
Anderson: "Some of the findings are said to include a lack of player development, player “cliques” (with large, unjustified salaries an issue), culture deficiencies, poor behaviours, consistently long injury list & meddling from outside departments into football matters."
Anderson: "The 3-person panel will shortly table its report. Could it also include regrets from some parents that their sons were actually drafted by the club?
And do players have total faith in selection integrity? A term that first introduced during the Brendon Bolton years."
Anderson: "The other issue for Carlton over the next 2 years is an extremely tight salary cap that is going to have to find room for emerging superstar’s Sam Walsh new deal as he comes out of contract at the end of 2022. It might even mean Walsh is paid under market value."

Been a fair bit of chat around that this is pure speculation from Anderson.  Even the use of questions rather than statements.  He may actually know that the report is about to be released, but then has just made up the contents

Re: Review

Reply #662 –
Quote from: laj – on
BREAKING, via Jon Anderson: "As Carlton continues a review into its football department, some findings can be revealed & don’t make for pretty reading for those in charge.
For those desperate to know how the Carlton review will go, buckle your seat belts & get ready for change.
Anderson: "Some of the findings are said to include a lack of player development, player “cliques” (with large, unjustified salaries an issue), culture deficiencies, poor behaviours, consistently long injury list & meddling from outside departments into football matters."
Anderson: "The 3-person panel will shortly table its report. Could it also include regrets from some parents that their sons were actually drafted by the club?
And do players have total faith in selection integrity? A term that first introduced during the Brendon Bolton years."
Anderson: "The other issue for Carlton over the next 2 years is an extremely tight salary cap that is going to have to find room for emerging superstar’s Sam Walsh new deal as he comes out of contract at the end of 2022. It might even mean Walsh is paid under market value."

While some of the issues wouldn't surprise me, I think that it would be wise to take Anderson's speculation with a grain of salt.  That would have to be one of the most qualified media stories ever.

Anderson has probably been lurking here and has repeated some of the common themes  ::)
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: Review

Reply #663 –
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/leaked-high-level-carlton-email-supposedly-reveals-the-future-of-the-club/news-story/a8a86c34cb8c67cf7a01cbf2fedfca3f

An alleged email from deep inside the Carlton hierarchy has found its way to Sheahan ink.

The email which may be true or may be just be a work of fiction offers intriguing suggestions of what the future might look like for the Blue Baggers.

The leaked email, supposedly from a club board member, outlines the club’s mistakes, plans for the future, who is to be sacked, who will or won’t be hired and players’ futures.

We haven’t been able to check the veracity of the claims but the specific details suggest it came from a highly placed insider with intimate knowledge of boardroom politics, executive level decision making, finances and list management.

The ‘person’ suggests the board is divided into two camps: the billionaires, led by Pratt and Mathieson, and the non-billionaires.

The top-level secretive document highlights David Teague’s tenure as senior coach and whether he should be given next season to continue in the job.
Some of what the email reportedly contains includes:

> Does the club ‘give Teague 2022 with new assistants on the basis we are not top six by mid-season, Clarko would be available’ (referring to outgoing Hawks coach Alastair Clarkson), which is the preferred option of the billionaires.

> Or does it ‘make a change now because Teague cannot create a game plan and there is genuine concern over the direction of the group’ — the preferred option of the non-billionaires.

> Alternatives to take over: Brad Scott, Ross Lyon, Alastair Clarkson or Don Pyke.

> Justin Leppitsch’s recent comments on the Blues’ decision-making left a sour taste in their mouth.

> Scott is labelled ‘the most likely pick’ as the AFL ‘wants us to take him’ but there’s a query over his ability to recruit big name assistants, unlike Ross Lyon.

> Lyon is very unlikely to get the job because of the way he left Fremantle.

> Pyke is very well liked by the review team with John ‘Horse’ Longmire saying he ‘is the best assistant we’ve ever had’ at the Swans.

> Leppitsch very unlikely. Not good at Lions.

> A process will be undertaken to appoint a new coach by a panel of football people after a new head of football is appointed.

The email also apparently states the club will be getting rid of Brad Lloyd, Teague and the assistants, bar Luke Power and Daniel O’Keefe.

Cain Liddle’s position as chief executive is under intense scrutiny. The club’s recruiter Nick Austin another in the gun.

A change in the team’s captaincy is also forecast according to the document, stating defender Jacob Weitering would be anointed the new leader with young gun Sam Walsh his vice-captain.

Patrick Cripps needs to focus on his body and getting fit, it reportedly states.

And the playing group as a whole were labelled ‘Hollywood’ pertaining to their alleged rock star lifestyle and egos.

Other big name players are also listed and potentially on the chopping block according to this document.

It’s alleged Levi Casboult, Mark Murphy, Eddie Betts and Caleb Marchbank have had their papers stamped.

And Sam Petreski Seton and Fisher will return to Western Australia. On the trade table, according to the document, would be; Saad, McGovern, Martin and Williams.

The document suggests there was an 11am phone hook up via WebEX between key board members last Sunday, we believe.

The review which is being undertaken presented some initial findings to incoming president Luke Sayers, outgoing president Mark Loguidice and three others (whose names are not listed).

Fiction or fact? Guess we will find out in the weeks and month to come.

2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: Review

Reply #664 –
Sounds like a Readers Digest version of the rumours that have been in circulation for months.

Re: Review

Reply #665 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Fiction or fact? Guess we will find out in the weeks and month to come.
Well, I'm afraid this is more of what @kruddler‍ would call Captain Obvious, and means very little!

That basically listed all possible directions from two opposing factions, so some of it is bound to be correct!

So it's fortune telling rubbish! ;)
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #666 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Sounds like a Readers Digest version of the rumours that have been in circulation for months.

What I found bizarre is "The billionaires" want to keep Teague with a target of top 6 for 2022 but the "non billionaires" want to chop him now. Thought it would have been the other way around.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: Review

Reply #667 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
What I found bizarre is "The billionaires" want to keep Teague with a target of top 6 for 2022 but the "non billionaires" want to chop him now. Thought it would have been the other way around.

I agree. Maybe they're fed up of paying coaches for no work, because they keep sacking them before the end of their contract.

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Reply #668 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
I agree. Maybe they're fed up of paying coaches for no work, because they keep sacking them before the end of their contract.

Probably. They're billionaires for a reason.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: Review

Reply #669 –
I really hope that the supposedly leaked email is a spoof, because if that's the level of judgment and decision making at Board level, it's no better than the average fan, and further reinforces my long held opinion that they need to be cleared out.

Re: Review

Reply #670 –
So my mate just told me the content of that article I posted from Tony Sheahan was on bigfooty about a week ago lol.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: Review

Reply #672 –
Big Footy and Tony Sheahan. Nothing more to say.

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Reply #673 –
Same as the Big footy rumour... Top6 in 2022?..thats unfair, if you keep Teague then you extend him to 3 years and treat him properly. Every game in 2022 will be like a final if that happened and he would be a nervous wreck... If the money men want him then back him..

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Reply #674 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Big Footy and Tony Sheahan. Nothing more to say.
Yep, as I wrote and alluded to earlier, the fact this stuff comes out and gains any traction in the media says far more about our board and our executive than it does about players or coaches.

The silence from our club's officials is deafening, they are the proverbial "Rabbits in the AFL Media's headlights!"

Every time I hear or read stuff like this, I can't help but think the bad old Carlton is kicking violently in it's death throws, the episode has an air of revenge and retribution more than progress. Very much like the factional shizen happening over at the Filth!

Strong club leadership should be silencing the media hoards and steering our club confidently through it, but instead we look like we are reactive and panicky. The silence also shows you how divided our board and executive really is! ;)
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"