Carlton Supporters Club

I wish you luck!

The only game this season where I was convinced we'd win was against a Collingwood side that was an absolute rabble ... and that worked out well.

It's going to be more of a challenge this time but, if the coach gets his act together, we have to be in with a chance.

Little to do with the coach and more to do with the players and what they stand for. Chances of playing finals are as close to zero as fark is to swearing. At some point we will see players who have checked out for the year, hope it not today.

Collingwood are not very good, they lost quality players preseason, have been in turmoil off the field and also have key players out injured like us and are playing a lot of kids. They have a newbie fill in coach and really if we can't beat them well then we are not progressing. They are a bottom team for a reason and there are no excuses for us in this game. Geelong are a polished finished product and the result was as expected but this is about as good as it gets in terms of a weak Collingwood both on and off the field.

We're in with a strong chance.  That's if the commitment follows.  If we lose this, I'm shutting up shop. 

Can’t agree with that G2C.  AFL footballers have to be competitive beasts and they give their all when they step on to the ground.  However, if they’re playing injured, out of position, with the wrong match up, or under flawed instructions, their best won’t be good enough.

Collingwood are not very good, they lost quality players preseason, have been in turmoil off the field and also have key players out injured like us and are playing a lot of kids. They have a newbie fill in coach and really if we can't beat them well then we are not progressing. They are a bottom team for a reason and there are no excuses for us in this game. Geelong are a polished finished product and the result was as expected but this is about as good as it gets in terms of a weak Collingwood both on and off the field.

Little to do with the coach and more to do with the players and what they stand for. Chances of playing finals are as close to zero as fark is to swearing. At some point we will see players who have checked out for the year, hope it not today.

Fair enough, there is a lot in that so lets break it down:
- Firstly to my original point, Jesus Christ can coach them but history shows when there is nothing to play for, some blokes take the easy route and check out. What I was trying to say was lets see what type of group we have, is one who self driven and gives its all not matter what or one who is planning their footy trip.
- Playing Injured -  There isn't a player on a list in the AFL who isn't sore or has a niggle at this time of the year. This is up to Russell to manage and either put em away for the year or manage them through such that when they cross the line, they are fit to play and give a contest for 120 mins.
- Out of position, wrong match up or Flawed Instructions - this is definitely on the coaching group (and will be one of the main discussion points of the 3 man review panel). If this is indeed been happening, dunno if they are going to change anything in the remaining games.
Both teams are playing for pride today, lets see who has more.

Your last 2 points contradict each other.

If players are deemed not fit, then players must be played out of position.

Simply look at our ruck situation currently.

Injuries have ruined our season and/or stopped us from recovering it. Suggesting anything else is naive.

Fogarty the sub

Left out of the starting 22 due to being 'managed,' then finds himself as the medical sub 

Then The TT says pre game that its up to the players to find their own motivation? Straight from the Whoosha handbook... don't know how many times he said the same thing. Good grief.

Sorry but I agree with him. The display thus far by our blokes is exactly what I expected. Poor, meek, allowing ball to come out of our fwd line and into their fwd 50 without a single contest.