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Docherty standing down

As co captain.

Hopefully Cripps stands down next.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
 

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Rumour is Weitering will replace Docherty as co captain.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Quote from: madbluboy – on
Rumour is Weitering will replace Docherty as co captain.
Yes, I've heard that on radio last night, but I've also read around various chat groups that we may be looking at a whole new leadership group.

Personally, if we do not have a new leadership group I can't see us making progress. You can't allow what allegedly went down at our club to persist or it will eventually resurface the moment there is a new disagreement.

On Weitering as a favourite, I have a fairly good source in relation to things involving Weitering and so far I've heard nothing. That may just be due to the Xmas holiday period and Omicron, people might not have been socialising, but it could also be because Weitering doesn't leak!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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I agree 100%

Weitering and Walsh are natural leaders and I don't see any reason why we should wait any longer.

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Maybe there is no-one else outside those mentioned?  Pretty simple conclusion.

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Quote from: kruddler – on
Will make it easier for us to trade him next year after his body breaks down again.
It would make it much easier for coaches to maximise his game impact and style if he wasn't forced to set an example by chasing, or on the flip side if coaches and team-mates were free to berate him for not chasing!

He often doesn't chase, not because he doesn't have the will but because he's got no fecking chance of catching anyone, it's a bad look for the captain, so why the feck bother, why force him into a pointless energy sapping effort that delivers nada?

Can you imagine if Parko had forced Diesel chase/follow opposition rovers all over the turf? I mean, it's just pointless!

Give Cripps all the resource he needs to win the footy and use it, and do not run him into the ground trying to be something he isn't and never will be! We've got a Rolls-Royce, we can't be turning it into a Dune-Buggy!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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A mates son is managed by Cripps manager, last year he facilitated a meeting between them.
A topic of conversation was Cripps running patterns and the fact that he try’s to stay between the arcs and not get drawn to the wings…
Let’s go BIG !

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Quote from: northernblue – on
A mates son is managed by Cripps manager, last year he facilitated a meeting between them.
A topic of conversation was Cripps running patterns and the fact that he try’s to stay between the arcs and not get drawn to the wings…

Thats pretty obvious.

Look at his heat map for last year...



edit: It appears for some reason that is a generic heatmap.
Here is Eddie Betts for comparison

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Cripps opponent is the problem, when it was just a designated tagger with no offensive skills we could get away with it but as soon as the smarter coaches started running their better players off Cripps thats when the trouble started. Means that players like Curnow, Hewitt, Kennedy have to be picking up Cripps slack and that might work against less talented teams but not the better midfields with more depth.

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Quote from: kruddler – on
edit: It appears for some reason that is a generic heatmap.
Here is Eddie Betts for comparison
Who'd have thunk it, the stats people can find online for AFL turn out to be bogus!

There is a truck load of people earning big dollar$ for being specialist commentators and analysts, some of them past players who barely made it out of high school!

So I'm betting this isn't the first or last example you'll find of that, after all AFL isn't full of data scientists!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Cripps opponent is the problem, when it was just a designated tagger with no offensive skills we could get away with it but as soon as the smarter coaches started running their better players off Cripps thats when the trouble started.
That's a problem for our coaches not Cripps, when our coaches cut out the formulaic AFL past player knows best tactical crap the problem will go away!

Let's see if Voss can earn his dollar$?

fwiw, I see the same shizen happening to Maddy Prespakis, and coaches come out and make generic sweeping statements like, "Maddy has to find a way to deal with that!" Maybe that is just media speak, but coach isn't it your fecking job to make maximum use of your resource and to solve such problems?

Dud coaches will just sack/trade the star player and find a replacement who fits the formula!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Dusty doesn't do defensive running.
"everything you know is wrong"

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Quote from: Thryleon – on
Dusty doesn't do defensive running.
Agreed, Cripps problem is that he is an elite ball winner who is an ordinary user by foot (both targets and scoring) and often doesn't make great decisions, Dusty is likewise an elite ball winner but one who is an elite user and makes 1st class decisions 9 out of 10.

Cripps isn't involved in the chain of play after disposal, Dusty is.

If we judge Cripps by how Dusty plays Cripps would be a failure, so I think it's not a fair frame of reference. Cripps is at another level inside the contest beyond Dusty.

Our club and coaches say and do nothing when Dusty does yet another throat fend off, they just sit back and watch Cripps get pinged for the very same high contact!

Even worse, they watch Cripps get tackled high and pinged for holding the ball or incorrect disposal, even though his opponent hasn't slowed his progress! It's like the AFL decided because he is a giant it's OK for spud opponents to do whatever they like. Some of them have to literally leave/jump off the ground to get Cripps above his shoulders, and the umpire will call play because Cripps is accused of ducking his head when most of the time he is just stooping to pick up the footy!

I've seen Cripps pinged for initiating high contact just because some spud midget negative defender deliberately stepped into Cripps path and got caught with Cripps shoulder. It's like they are coached to throw their head at Cripps' torso and then beg for a free!

Cripps does his best not to clean them up, I think he is doing the exactly wrong thing, he should take a leaf out of Big Nick's play book and accelerate if they want to play that game, make them pay the Plugger price for getting in his way! Across the competition the opponents will soon start to hesitate and that might be all the extra time Cripps will need. Hesitate a little just like the guys who go to tackle Dusty with the thought of coping a thumb in the larynx!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Quote from: kruddler – on

edit: It appears for some reason that is a generic heatmap.
Here is Eddie Betts for comparison


I don't mind the old "Spot the difference!" puzzle...but that's a real tough one. :D