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AFL Rd 9 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

I think we've done well to win the way we have without anything like ruck dominance.
Next week, we travel, which we haven't done well this year so far, to Sydney, to face a GWS that must be aching after being embarrassed. Who do we play on Toby Greene?
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Quote from: crashlander – on
I think we've done well to win the way we have without anything like ruck dominance.
Next week, we travel, which we haven't done well this year so far, to Sydney, to face a GWS that must be aching after being embarrassed. Who do we play on Toby Greene?

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We should have Plowman available next week: he missed with illness. He has done the job a couple of times, but he's been smashed a couple of time. If we can control the midfield, he should be more competitive. This is where we miss someone like McGovern, who has the speed and the aerial skins to get the job done.

It will be interesting to see who else comes up after injury. Martin is probably out. Hewett is a possible in, but no certainty. Dow probably needs to be rewarded. But, we've seen that mean little so far, and our midfield has been pretty good.

Having Setters and Marchbank play whole games will make the 2's better. Honey will be close. Others are less certain.

I would love to see our small forwards kicking goals, but you can't complain about the pressure they provide. Some of the tackles from Carey Durdin and Matt Owies were nothing short of brilliant. Owies has more tackles inside 50 than anyone else in the comp! Now, if they can work on their ball handling ...
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Two things we don't do well this year and areas to improve

- Finish off games
- We are not a very good travelling side

We have a bit to go to have the culture of Geelong for example - but a win this week will be monumental for our season. I'm actually not expecting us to turn up as some players are very conditional. I hope they prove me wrong.

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If Hewett is fit he probably comes in for Martin if he doesn't come up. I think Dow has done enough to deserve a spot...but who goes out? If Plowman is fit, does he replace Boyd for the match up on Greene?

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Quote from: WASurfer – on
If Hewett is fit he probably comes in for Martin if he doesn't come up. I think Dow has done enough to deserve a spot...but who goes out? If Plowman is fit, does he replace Boyd for the match up on Greene?
Boyd has had a lot of love for his game vs the Crows so I dont see him getting dropped..be Hewett for Martin or maybe Cottrell if Hewett doesnt come up. Cottrell performed ok after coming in for Martin as the sub, also remember him lining up on Whitfield and doing ok
Dow might get the sub role or maybe they go back to Setterfield.....I'd be giving Dow a run...
re: Greene....they will probably have to start Newman or Docherty on him, have the feeling he will get a few opponents.

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Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
re: Greene....they will probably have to start Newman or Docherty on him, have the feeling he will get a few opponents.
Yep, just not a type we have a convenient match up for, but then who does!

I feel we will either match him overhead or match him at ground level, but not both. So it is a real test for the coaches this week, could SoJ go with Greene and we tactically force him to compete in the air?

Maybe we just say feck it, and we go hell for leather out of the midfield and force them to use Greene up the field.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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We'll lose Martin, can see Carrol floating forward as he does play the small forward role well, and Hewett coming in, that's about it for this week excluding an injury.

Can Cottrell do a negating job on Greene?
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Quote from: LP – on
Yep, just not a type we have a convenient match up for.

I feel we will either match him overhead or match him at ground level, but not both. So it is a real test for the coaches this week, could SoJ go with Greene and we tactically force him to compete in the air?
Strong in the body is Greene as we know and a good one on one mark either using the body or flying from behind with the boot or knee finding its way into a delicate part of his opponents anatomy. With players like Greene I think you put a bigger player on them to equal or better him physically so he has to rely on leading more and relying on his teammates to deliver to his advantage.
McGovern was the ideal player for him imho but alas we dont have that option, cant see either Newman or Docherty being able to handle him the air as thats not their forte. You could bring Williamson in who has him for height and isnt slow but he isnt smart enough. I guess Plowman if fit usually gets the dirty jobs so he might get picked with Newman as plan B..

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Stop the mid field delivery to Greene and we are on our way to kill his dominant play. My worry each week is how our mid field stand up. How we control the contest at ever potential clearance. We have issues with our ruck injuries. This really isn’t a game we should lose. It shouldn’t be a game we really worry about. Just don’t be complacent and make every piece of play a genuine contest. Having said that this, I may have made this a danger game. Don’t lose this one. Not now. Keep the momentum going. Keep the confidence and belief happening. We haven’t had too many problems with our clearances this season. Not for an entire game. I don’t want the wheels to fall off.
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Yes, there is no perfect solution for combating a Greene type, sometimes you just have to accept the best you can do is limit their influence by reducing their opportunities but you know at some stage they'll have an impact.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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GWS seem to find a way to beat us.  Greene is one problem.  Thankfully Finlayson isn't there to kick his customary three or four goals.

Whitfield is usually the one who kills us with his run, big test for o brien this week.
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GWS don't like it hard, it's common knowledge they wilt when it gets tough and they want to play a soft brand and why players like Greene, Ward and Davis are the ones that have to be the spine of their team and lead the way.
I'd be hitting the likes of Kelly, Cogs, Whitfield hard and showing them it's going to be 4 quarters of tough football.

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Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
GWS don't like it hard, it's common knowledge they wilt when it gets tough and they want to play a soft brand and why players like Greene, Ward and Davis are the ones that have to be the spine of their team and lead the way.
I'd be hitting the likes of Kelly, Cogs, Whitfield hard and showing them it's going to be 4 quarters of tough football.

I'm sure we'll serve it up to them EB. 😎
Reality always wins in the end.

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When he was on SEN with Andy Maher and Andrew Gaze, Josh Jenkins (ex-Crow) climbed on the Blues bandwagon and started driving it. He pointed out that we have either the best or second-best midfield (Demons being the other) and key forward pair (Jez & Hawkins being the other). He also thought we'd have difficulty after Liam Jones' self-immolation but says he's now convinced Lewis Young is a worthy replacement. He said Young must be getting some pretty good support from coaches and fellow players as he's now showing some flair with intercept marking and running with the ball and he frees up Weitering who's either the best man-on-man tall defender or 2nd to May. He said he loves what Owies and Durdin are doing and now others like Saad, Williams and Fisher can concentrate on being role players. While the other 2 were more restrained, JJ queried how many of the next 3 they'd expect Carlton to win and led with his jaw by saying he expects Carlton to win all 3.