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AFL Rd 13 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

A big game on Friday night at the MCG. It will probably be wet.
Essendon have been rubbish, but ...
We're probably at our weakest, with so many important players in the stands.
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Re: AFL Rd 13 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #1 –
Assuming Kennedy is fit, does he come in for Dow?

I think we're all expecting Durdin to come straight in to replace Weitering? Although if it's wet, as suggested, it might not be as clear cut.

Does Motlop hold his spot? If not, who replaces him?

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Reply #2 –
Not confident this week, CheatsFC 150th celebrations, they should not better us, but the fix is probably in for a big AFL payday!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #3 –
Quote from: WASurfer – on
Assuming Kennedy is fit, does he come in for Dow?

I think we're all expecting Durdin to come straight in to replace Weitering? Although if it's wet, as suggested, it might not be as clear cut.

Does Motlop hold his spot? If not, who replaces him?
Not sure about Sam Durdin, should take a couple of VFL games before he gets hold of the game plan, I suspect Motlop will be an out with Dow to retain his spot, and if it is wet Hayes could be straight in as he is ready to go!

If it was wet Kemp is not a bad option because for his size he is quite mobile / agile, but he is a bit down on confidence.

Historically, Setterfield plays his better games in the wet.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #4 –
Who plays on Peter Wright?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #5 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Who plays on Peter Wright?
Young

I suspect we'll implement a plan similar to last week, TDK at the bounce before dropping behind play, with SoJ and Cripps doing a lot of around the ground stuff.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #6 –
There’s not a lot of height in the Essendon F50. Obviously, 2 metre Peter is tall but Lewis Young is on him. They played the 2nd ruckman in Phillips and seemed to rotate Draper and him through a forward pocket but there’s a reason why few clubs these days leave specialist ruckmen in the pockets. I’m not at all sure we need to jump at shadows and parachute Sam Durdin into the backline just because he’s 198cm. Plowman and perhaps Marchbank would be competitive enough in the air and would expose Draper & Phillips when the ball comes to ground. They’d also match up pretty well on Harrison Jones or Stringer. In particular, I’d like to see Marchbank blooded against a weaker team like Essendon. Yes, a win isn’t guaranteed but I’d prefer to bring him back this week than against the Tigers, Dockers or Saints in the following weeks. Of course, that presumes he’s over the knee bruising and he’s back to full training.

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Reply #7 –
Quote from: Mav – on
I’d like to see Marchbank blooded against a weaker team like Essendon.
Not sure if it is wet weather that it is the ideal day to be running Marchbank, his strength is really intercept marking.

Agree about Plowman, he along with Newman and Saad tend to play taller than people expect, Hayes is also pretty good at contesting in the air. The trick in the wet is always to bring the ball to ground in a controlled manner and have numbers ready at the fall.

Will need deep runners, I'd rest Motlop, keep the likes of Cottrell, LoB, Newnes, Durdin and Owies as they all have the two way work ethic. Assuming Kennedy is straight back in and good to go.

I've heard Stringer and McGrath are 50/50 at best, Stringer has always bullied us a bit, it's that Stringer / Membrey / Parker size we often struggle with. I realise he gives up some size but as a hard tag I'd run Stocker on Stringer to start with assuming Stringer plays.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #8 –
Quote from: Mav – on
There’s not a lot of height in the Essendon F50. Obviously, 2 metre Peter is tall but Lewis Young is on him. They played the 2nd ruckman in Phillips and seemed to rotate Draper and him through a forward pocket but there’s a reason why few clubs these days leave specialist ruckmen in the pockets. I’m not at all sure we need to jump at shadows and parachute Sam Durdin into the backline just because he’s 198cm. Plowman and perhaps Marchbank would be competitive enough in the air and would expose Draper & Phillips when the ball comes to ground. They’d also match up pretty well on Harrison Jones or Stringer. In particular, I’d like to see Marchbank blooded against a weaker team like Essendon. Yes, a win isn’t guaranteed but I’d prefer to bring him back this week than against the Tigers, Dockers or Saints in the following weeks. Of course, that presumes he’s over the knee bruising and he’s back to full training.

No, there's only Shiel (190), Stringer (192), Jones (196), Wright (203) and Draper (205) or Phillips (201).  Without Durdin, our taller defenders are Lewis (201) and Plowman, Marchbank and Kemp (all 193).

Yes. it's a night game, it could be wet, and the Essendon forwards aren't setting the world on fire, but it would be a big ask for Young, Plowman and Marchbank or Kemp to contain them, particularly as the night wears on.  I think Durdin has to play, even if his role is just to kill the ball at marking contests.
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Reply #9 –
Personally, I think we match up better against CheatsFC than we did against the Filth, for me the tape measure doesn't mean much.

This game will be won or lost in the midfield, if we get on top and do not burn the footy the ball won't get down to Wright enough to worry about it. CheatsFC will be hell bent on forcing turnovers to back in their speed advantage.

It will be interesting to see which way the MC goes.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"
 

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Reply #10 –
Quote from: LP – on
Young

I suspect we'll implement a plan similar to last week, TDK at the bounce before dropping behind play, with SoJ and Cripps doing a lot of around the ground stuff.

Young was probably worst on ground last week.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #11 –
DJC, you might be reaching a bit if you’re suggesting Shiel at 190 cm is a tall forward. Leaving aside that he’s a mid with few claims to being a forward, if 190 cm is tall, then we have a tall defender in Newman to put on him (187 cm). Likewise, Stringer (if he has recovered from a hamstring injury) plays as a big-bodied midfielder. If he stays in the forward line, that’ll be a win for us. He’ll need an athletic defender to lock him down rather than a lump like Durdin. So we’re down to Wright who is more noted as a leading forward rather than a Charlie Dixon monster key forward and a couple of rucks without much evidence of being pack markers. And Jones who may well become a contested marking option in the future but for now he feeds off uncontested marks on the run as he can’t cope with body contact. Do we play Durdin on the off-chance one of the ruckmen will have a day out or do we play a tall defender like Marchbank who is a much smarter footballer who knows the Carlton game plan?

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Reply #12 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Young was probably worst on ground last week.
As a 200cm defender against the club with potentially the strongest small forward setup in the AFL, even so I doubt he was our worst, I can think of some others.
 
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #13 –
People have short memories it seems.  We are not flushed with talls and Cripps was doing the ruck work with Jsos as backup to Tom De Koning last week.

The Bombers rucks will give us a headache, and Durdin for me is a walk in start, because even if he doesnt set the house on fire, I dont want to tempt the Footy gods by talking about other players going down, but one key tall at each end with one ruckman means he becomes an automatic in.


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Re: AFL Rd 13 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #14 –
Quote from: LP – on
Young

I suspect we'll implement a plan similar to last week, TDK at the bounce before dropping behind play, with SoJ and Cripps doing a lot of around the ground stuff.

In the last game De Koning took the centre bounce and went forward far more often than he went back.  We relied on winning the stoppages and controlling possession to minimise and/or disrupt Collingwood's forward 50 entries.  Without Cox, Collingwood's forwards are 192 and shorter so we had an advantage when the ball was bombed in.  That won't be the case against Essendon.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball