AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

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Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #15 – July 17, 2022, 05:59:44 am

My thoughts are pretty much the same as the comments posted so far. Weiters needs some time to get back to where he was. The cats are in very good form. That was a proper finals like game and really the first taste for our boys. We will be better when Pitto and a few others are back. Not disgraced but they are currently a step above us.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #16 – July 17, 2022, 06:56:32 am

Quote from: townsendcalling – on July 17, 2022, 12:25:36 am

Love the 'boys vs men' analogies because we could have predicted that when the draw was released!! We are the second youngest list? They are battle hardened, experienced campaigners. Our young group had a taste of 'finals like pressure' in front of a big crowd at the G... ... all part of the 2022 learning experience. In racing terms, we will be better for the run, we will have learnt a bit and we are still in the race for the finals!! Not all is lost!!

Agree, we didn't lose the game because sprayed the the ball in front of goal or lacked effort etc, they were just composed and clinical and were we panicky and fumbly. I said to the Mrs during the game that they played like we do when we are "on".
Until next time Pussycats.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #17 – July 17, 2022, 07:05:46 am

Smashed in the middle. We need Pittonet back so we can return to our strength from early in the year which was centre clearances.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #18 – July 17, 2022, 07:08:24 am

Quote from: madbluboy – on July 17, 2022, 07:05:46 am

Smashed in the middle. We need Pittonet back so we can return to our strength from early in the year which was centre clearances.

And Gov to pick off their fwd entries.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #19 – July 17, 2022, 09:23:45 am

A pretty insipid game all round to be honest. Sitting freezing cold at the G there was only two or three times that were exciting otherwise it was a crap game to watch.

We are a lot better than we showed. They looked second to the ball - I do believe the 6 day turnaround interstate travel compared to an 8 day home ground game, played a part for both sides.

There was no reward for our tackling efforts, when they did stick.

Is Selwood the most disliked captain going around ?

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #20 – July 17, 2022, 09:28:53 am

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on July 17, 2022, 07:08:24 am

And Gov to pick off their fwd entries.

They don't spray the ball like most teams going forward but I'd have McGovern following Cameron like I said pre game, we let him wander and he had too much of the ball for a forward and we didn't learn from watching previous games how they setup now. They had 27 less possessions but it looked like they had 50 more because of how they used the ball.
Hayes is a trier but isn't up to it and Geelong was the wrong game to experiment with him imo as he turned the ball over and looked nervous.
Need Pittonet back too as TDK looked tired at stages in the game and I thought Jack had one of his poorer games..Stanley is a spud imo but we couldn't exploit him enough...

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #21 – July 17, 2022, 09:41:40 am

Yes, we'll learn a lot from such a lesson from such an experienced unit in top form. But only if we're brutality honest with ourselves; can't shy away from reality of the failure and why.

Same old same old, apply real heat and we go into our shells and lose discipline and authority. So much is now above the shoulders with this group. The ability and talent is there but that's of little use if the heart and brain aint engaged, focused and locked.

The Vossmeister hid his disdain with the overall performance pretty well. Was generous with Weiters re him taking time to get back into the groove. I'm not so generous. He's a leader and has to show more engagement and heart. Taking weeks to regain his groove is indulgent.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #22 – July 17, 2022, 10:27:04 am

Hayes had 23 possessions last night with a 73.9% efficiency, on a windy night when there were loose balls and miskicks everywhere.
That efficiency is better than most of his teammates.
Yep, some of the turnovers didn't look good, but he wasn't Robinson Crusoe.

If we'd been hitting targets and holding marks in those conditions McKay would have had quite a few more opportunities.

With so much ball hitting the deck or misdirected Geelong just handled those conditions mujch better than we did.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #23 – July 17, 2022, 10:33:29 am

Thought Hayes locks were direct and strong a but directly to Geelong - is that his fault or the fault of teammates not getting into positions they should be in?

Whole team looked tired and behind their man. Frustrating game to watch.

Our forward pressure wasn’t what it should’ve been.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #24 – July 17, 2022, 10:57:15 am

Quote from: Micky0 – on July 17, 2022, 10:33:29 am

Thought Hayes locks were direct and strong a but directly to Geelong - is that his fault or the fault of teammates not getting into positions they should be in?

Whole team looked tired and behind their man. Frustrating game to watch.

Our forward pressure wasn’t what it should’ve been.

Durdin had 0 tackles and only 10 pressure acts. Not sure what was going on there.

Motlop had 5 tackles and 22 pressure acts which is as much as you could ask of the kid.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #25 – July 17, 2022, 10:59:10 am

Quote from: Lods – on July 17, 2022, 10:27:04 am

With so much ball hitting the deck or misdirected Geelong just handled those conditions mujch better than we did.

It was very much Geelong conditions.

Colder and windier than Melbourne.

Given half our games are played inside, and 1/4 of our games are played interstate, we don't come across those conditions very often, whereas Geelong would train and play in them regularly.

In those conditions you seem to exert more energy than normal chasing all those balls on the deck and the more combative style it requires....which worked against us given the extra 3 days break they had.

We needed everything in our favour and we had nothing in our favour. A 5 goal defeat is about par for the course.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #26 – July 17, 2022, 11:39:58 am

One Geelong player who has improved is Zac Guthrie, was a real spud initially but after watching him a couple of weeks in a row he has become a decent player.Same with that Irish lad O'Connor who has also come on quickly and is a solid unit.

Dropping LOB was a real dumb move and playing Hayes imo, I'm sure Harry would rather LOB delivering the ball down forward .Hayes efficiency would have been helped by the fact most of his kicks went 10 metres at most , he is also very small and light which vs such a well built opposition was another negative in picking him.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #27 – July 17, 2022, 11:45:34 am

Think it was obvious Newnes should not have played.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #28 – July 17, 2022, 12:15:54 pm

Just watched the game again. Sheesh, what a player is TDK. Hopefully the shoulder was only a stinger.

Small Durds needs a rest. Newnes likewise.

The fumbles and dinky kicks (pressure?) really hurt us.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #29 – July 17, 2022, 12:36:45 pm

Was not confident going into the game.
6 day break v 8 day break.
The conditions suited Geelong and not us and they made the most of it, forcing us into errors and and miss kicks due the the pressure on the player.
Withers looks like he is lacking confidence and touch. Remember him been the same after his first shoulder injury. Hope he gets into the groove soon as we need his leadership down back.
Young and Harry both had shockers and hopefully they will learn from the experience and be better next time.
Next 5 weeks will determine our fate, win 2 or 3 and we make finals.

Go Blues.