AFL Rd 20 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Adelaide

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Re: AFL Rd 20 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #30 – July 30, 2022, 11:09:26 pm

Welcome to carlton Vossy.

This is how we role mate. Can appear to be world beaters but when it matters can and do collapse against any opposition. Get used to it.

Still way too many passengers. Our last 6 picked each weeks and still bottom tier standard.

This game proves how much the game is played above the shoulders. Had one of strongest teams on paper and imo never looked likely from the second quarter against a bottom 4 team and we are playing for a finals spot. Go figure.

Harry needs to fix his technique when kicking for goal in positions where a snap kick is not the norm and needs to go back to working hard up the field and get on his bike on hard leads and stop wanting to wrestle and initiate contact and then flops playing for frees.

And Charlie seems to have his eye on the Coleman over the team imo. Is more interested in playing for joe the goose goals then using his fitness to burn weaker opponents around up the field and getting them the other way which opens up countless forward opportunities for us. Wants to play deeper and keep his tally kicking over imo.

Rucks were awful as well against D grade opposition.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #31 – July 30, 2022, 11:09:57 pm

I said after the Richmond game, we can not handle that close in pressure.

Did we even mark one contested ball? Time and again nowhere near it.

Not good enough yet, season gave us more than we had expected at the beginning but we still have players thst do not impact Games time and again.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #32 – July 30, 2022, 11:23:55 pm

Really missing Hewett.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #33 – July 30, 2022, 11:43:22 pm

Stats tell a tale: 2 super efforts and not a lot from the rest.
41 possessions from Cripps. 6 tackles and 13 clearances.
40 possessions from Walsh; 3 tackles and 6 clearances.
32 to Doc.
Pitto and TdK probably did enough, but we should have done better.
Believing our own press? Possibly. But life is a lot more difficult now.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #34 – July 31, 2022, 12:02:17 am

Quote from: Lods – on July 30, 2022, 11:23:55 pm

Really missing Hewett.

Next week we might be without him and MK (concussion) 😳

Re: AFL Rd 20 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #35 – July 31, 2022, 12:05:09 am

Quote from: BluePhantom – on July 30, 2022, 10:16:36 pm

Time to trade in the Vosswagen

I drive a Kombi and have come home on a tow truck a few times!
We are ahead of where I thought we’d be under Voss and we are still ironing out the bugs I remember crows crapping on us at the end of a long year not so long ago.
We will get there, not this year and not with all the passengers we had tonight but we will get there

Re: AFL Rd 20 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #36 – July 31, 2022, 12:42:27 am

Putrid effort. Carlton of old rears it's ugly head. No intensity. Horrible skills. Dumb decion making. Awful, awful workrate. Thought these types of displays were well behind us. Maybe we're in for a sinister new kind of torture?

Re: AFL Rd 20 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #37 – July 31, 2022, 01:53:02 am

Quote from: shawny – on July 30, 2022, 11:09:26 pm

Welcome to carlton Vossy.

This is how we role mate. Can appear to be world beaters but when it matters can and do collapse against any opposition. Get used to it.

Still way too many passengers. Our last 6 picked each weeks and still bottom tier standard.

This game proves how much the game is played above the shoulders. Had one of strongest teams on paper and imo never looked likely from the second quarter against a bottom 4 team and we are playing for a finals spot. Go figure.

Harry needs to fix his technique when kicking for goal in positions where a snap kick is not the norm and needs to go back to working hard up the field and get on his bike on hard leads and stop wanting to wrestle and initiate contact and then flops playing for frees.

And Charlie seems to have his eye on the Coleman over the team imo. Is more interested in playing for joe the goose goals then using his fitness to burn weaker opponents around up the field and getting them the other way which opens up countless forward opportunities for us. Wants to play deeper and keep his tally kicking over imo.

Rucks were awful as well against D grade opposition.

Well put. This week, just like last week, when our mids are being held our small forwards disappear. Last week and for the short time he was on the field this game, Durdin looked like a deer caught in the headlights. Fisher did his usual disappearing act and Owies showed how average his kicking is.

Harry has had years to improve his kicking style but his attempted banana kick for goal has me questioning whether he should be kept at full forward. If today's forward line is the best we can put on the field from our list then he is going to have very limited opportunities in the next few games to find new ways in how not to kick goals. If the ball is not reaching him then he is wasted at full forward.

Would it be feasible to put him at CHB to take pressure off the defence and move JSOS to full forward?

This match was also a reality check with Pittonet. He is a solid average ruckman who on his best days will break even with the opposition rucks

Re: AFL Rd 20 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #38 – July 31, 2022, 06:39:46 am

As LN said, lost it mentally so now further doubt will creep into their minds. Absolutely the worst possible outcome at this time of the year given where we are at. Outworked, out played all night by 15th on the ladder FFS.
On a side note, how many farken OOTFs by our blokes?

Re: AFL Rd 20 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #39 – July 31, 2022, 06:43:28 am

Quote from: Mantis – on July 30, 2022, 10:36:34 pm

Brisbane, Melbourne and then Collingwood next to finish the home and away games. What a hard way to finish a season if you are still a chance for finals, and with so many injuries. A possibility of 4 straight losses (plus finals losses if we still make it) won’t do the squad any favours in terms of belief and confidence. What a sour end to 2022 we are looking at. Bloody footy gods.

Brisbane, Melbourne and then Collingwood next to finish the home and away games = LLL

Re: AFL Rd 20 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #40 – July 31, 2022, 07:49:59 am

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on July 31, 2022, 06:43:28 am

Brisbane, Melbourne and then Collingwood next to finish the home and away games = LLL

Last 10:
WLWLWLWLWL

So we’re a lock to beat Brisbane and Collingwood.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #41 – July 31, 2022, 07:50:35 am

Quote from: crashlander – on July 30, 2022, 11:43:22 pm

Stats tell a tale: 2 super efforts and not a lot from the rest.
41 possessions from Cripps. 6 tackles and 13 clearances.
40 possessions from Walsh; 3 tackles and 6 clearances.
32 to Doc.
Pitto and TdK probably did enough, but we should have done better.
Believing our own press? Possibly. But life is a lot more difficult now.

The stats don't look that bad for us in this game. The difference was the Crows were cleaner under pressure.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #42 – July 31, 2022, 08:12:10 am

The Crows neutralized much of the drive we get from Saad and Doc and beat us at stoppages, really missed Hewett, and contested ball. That's how it looked to me but I haven't studied the stats. Also, we made too many errors and gave away too many turnovers. Crow pressure was fierce.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #43 – July 31, 2022, 08:26:38 am

The Carlton Football Club needs to write an official apology to the South Australian members and supporters.
For many years now on the rare occasion we play in Adelaide the team NEVER comes to play putting in putrid efforts.
The SA supporters have endured soooo many years of being smashed in Adelaide.
Whether it's the traveling bit or the dislike of the oval or scared of the oppo supporters the team does not play well in Adelaide.

Harry McKay! Your job is to kick goals, please learn how to do that, oh and when going for a mark stop playing for the free kick and use your body to out muscle the oppo and actually jump at the footy. Just putting your hands up acting like you are marking is wearing thin.

As a team, get back to doing the TEAM things, the 1%ers.
People bag Honey, but if you watch his game he does alot of little things that help but gets no reward.

Jack Silvagni is always picked first from now on.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #44 – July 31, 2022, 08:49:07 am

Losing is part of sport, and I can handle that (just). But that was a dishonest performance and undid a lot of hard work. This side still lacks any kind of mature, professional mindset, symptomatic of Carlton for the last 20 years