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Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #45 –
Quote from: rocky – on
Seriously pathetic by the old man. I would be dead set embarrassed. He has form though so probably not a real surprise. Real shame

Heard on the ABC that he was in the car in the car park and may not of being allowed in.
Jack may of being pissed at the club and not hi dad.
Some clubs are pretty tight on who they let in to the dressing room, which is a shame seeing it was such a big milestone.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #46 –
Quote from: RiverRat – on
Some debatable (non)decisions but I thought the umps did a pretty good job and showed more common sense than I have been used to seeing. If having an extra umpire contributed to that performance, I am all for it.

Great to see Dusty penalized for several unsuccessful fend-offs - even better to see so many unsuccessful fend-offs.

I was fuming at several poor decisions at the time but, on reflection, the umpires were consistent and deserve acknowledgment for a well adjudicated game.

They did miss Dusty’s first fend off which was probably more blatantly holding the ball.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #47 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Fisher is a disappointing footballer imo. 6 touches in first quarter and then 1 more for the next 3.

Did not touch the footy after half time. Nothing.

Martin is even worse imo. The bloke jogs around at half pace and shows no desire to get out of first gear.

Both of these guys are teasers.

If we are going to make the leap up we can’t accept consistent below par performances regardless of their potential or highlight reel cameos they pull out every now and then.

Prefer to see blokes like kemp honey given more chances.

You can't accept that type of output - I hope we finally go hard at the selection table. Carroll and Honey are younger with more upside.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #48 –
If Saad wasn't playing we would have lost by 5 goals, it's a shame we can't afford to release him more.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #49 –
Quote from: DJC – on
I was fuming at several poor decisions at the time but, on reflection, the umpires were consistent and deserve acknowledgment for a well adjudicated game.

They did miss Dusty’s first fend off which was probably more blatantly holding the ball.

How many push in the backs when going for a mark were not called? (At least they were consistent)
A lot of double action push outs in the rucks were missed.
What does a Carlton forward need to do to get a free?
That Saad call for chopping the hands was a bad call replays showed he only hit the ball when he spoiled. Bad call.
2025... Moir of the same to come

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #50 –
Silvagni attended 18 ruck contests for 2 hit outs. Not a ruckman and it probably hurts his forward work which was poor last night.

Last year in round 1 Pittonet had a good battle with Nankervis for most of the game which allowed a fresh TDK to smash him in the final term.

Its time to end this Silvagni in the ruck nonsense. It doesn't work and our results in the 2nd half of last year show this.

2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
 

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #51 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Thought Gov was pretty solid for 99% of the night, then had a few howlers.

Sorry GIC, but I'll only grant you 50% of the night. There were two McGovern's out there last night.

1. The superstar intercept marker
2. The star struck 12 yo making the most fundamental mistakes and fumbles.

Drove me mad all night.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #53 –
Four umpires yet none of them saw McKay, Cripps & Curnow continually being held or blocked, somtimes they were bearhugs, other times they were sleeper holds.

Woeful umpiring !!
"The Other Teams Can Rot In Hell"

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #54 –
Quote from: LordLucifer – on
Four umpires yet none of them saw McKay, Cripps & Curnow continually being held or blocked, somtimes they were bearhugs, other times they were sleeper holds.

Woeful umpiring !!

I would be asking for clarification on some of those Grimes non decisions. If it's not holding then what would you actually call it?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #55 –
Quote from: LordLucifer – on
Four umpires yet none of them saw McKay, Cripps & Curnow continually being held or blocked, somtimes they were bearhugs, other times they were sleeper holds.

Woeful umpiring !!
Yes, I just do not get it, it can't be that the event is unsighted, looking at replays today you can sometimes see the umpire in the vision looking at the contest from less than 10m away.

Twice I saw Charlie jump for the footy with Grimes or some other defender hanging onto him around his waist.

With BigH it's a bit different, the Nthmond small/medium defenders jump into his from front on, they basically fly from the side turning their back into BigH with zero intent to mark the footy.

Years ago at junior footy I would see coaches do the very same to Weiters, simply because he was so dominant, it was crap coaching and even worse umpiring. In the end one day Weiters was carted off with a concussion from being simultaneously hit front on while he was tunnelled from behind in the marking contest. He never even got a free kick, they restarted with a ball up up after the ambulance that collected Weiters had left the field of play!

All this crap started years ago when umpires started ignoring blokes like Franklin and Hall putting their hands in defender's backs, BT would commentate and bitch and moan if the forwards were pinged, now to even things up umpires let all this stupid wrestling and scragging persist, it's bullsh1t football and rubbish umpiring, and a major reason why we are unlikely to ever see KPFs have 100 goals season regularly.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #56 –
The one that got away, or a bonus 2 points?

TBH, I thought we were outplayed on the night, and so I think it's more of the bonus category.

Our inability to transition from defence to attack is our major achilles heel, we just seem to have no plan other than the dump kick to the wing, and the ball ends up trapped in our defensive 50 for long periods of time.  Until this gets sorted, we have no hope against the top sides.
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #57 –
Huge shout out to our backline... 66 forward entries for the Tiggers, yet the boys limited them to a modest return, ably assisted by team defensive discipline.

The Tiggers brought their very best and much of the game was played on their terms, but our desire and intensity and defensive pressure was first rate. We've progressed. Plenty to be learned from that outing and plenty to be proud of. Last year I reckon the Tiggers win that game by 3-5 goals.

Newbies did their bit.

Plenty of good footy left in Edward C.

Missed Pitto's agro in the ruck, though TDK gave his all and didn't have his colours lowered.

H and Charles were always dangerous and although I thought the umpiring was consistent and pretty good there were too many infringements on Charles, missed or dismissed by the umps, including a clanger right in front of goals at a critical stage (though there were many critical stages in the game!).

Disappointed with Zackery F, Owies, JSOS and Martin. Although the game style might not have suited them, there just wasn't enough from them. I would definitely be looking at Small Durds and Honey, at least, for a call up for our game against the pussycats.

And I believe that MBB is absolutely right re the JSOS experiment in the ruck. Toss it out.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #58 –
Quote from: tonyo – on
Our inability to transition from defence to attack is our major achilles heel,
When I watched some highlights this morning I've come to the exact opposite conclusion.

What you saw last night from our defence was a symptom of zero pressure coming out of our F50, created by doubt and fear of the ball being turned over up the field.

Our biggest problem is we have almost zero run and chase, we've hardly a small forward who could catch molasses in an uphill race. Motlop is learning the Martin ways early, he'll be no good if that persists for too long, lazy, uninterested in the chase, looking for highlights. Fisher went absent outside of goal range, Owies looks to have lost pace or is playing injured. FFS, they made a 1st gamer look like a running God!

Charlie and BigH are great F50 targets but exert zero pressure once they aren't in the hunt for the pill, if they can't clunk it they have a problem, which is bizarre because they both have A-Grade recovery and ground ball skills, but it's like they have decided it's not their go to move too much, coaching?

Outside of Hewett our midfield is like treacle, unescapable when you're trapped on the inside with it, but out of consideration and not a threat once you are set free.

One of two things has to happen, either our skills improve dramatically and we stop with the pissweak deflating turnovers, or we find some pace to cover over all the feck ups!

Voss must have been watching last night and thinking back to his Brisbane career, "Oh no not again!"
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 1 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #59 –
Quote from: tonyo – on
The one that got away, or a bonus 2 points?

TBH, I thought we were outplayed on the night, and so I think it's more of the bonus category.

Our inability to transition from defence to attack is our major achilles heel, we just seem to have no plan other than the dump kick to the wing, and the ball ends up trapped in our defensive 50 for long periods of time.  Until this gets sorted, we have no hope against the top sides.

Spot on.

Apart from Saad we have no one from the back 50 willing or able to break a line. Really miss Walsh  and maybe even Cottrell to some extent just for his ability to take the game on.  Would have thought Voss and co would have come up with a few strategies when we get locked in but didn’t see it last night. And to further compound things we also struggled to lock the ball in when we were attacking.

All things considered our key defenders really held up and it’s thanks to them we are sharing the points.